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Coffin cord..Scottish tradition?
« on: Monday 05 June 17 18:41 BST (UK) »
Tv news coverage of the young Scottish girl killed in Manchester and I was curious about the white cord that was being held at the front of the coffin.

Is this a Scottish tradition?  It is not something I have seen in England.
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Re: Coffin cord..Scottish tradition?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 05 June 17 18:54 BST (UK) »
I think this helps explain. https://www.flickr.com/photos/browniebear/7316578186

Apparently the cord at the front of the coffin was held by her father. There was also one at the rear held by her mother and siblings.
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Re: Coffin cord..Scottish tradition?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 05 June 17 18:59 BST (UK) »
Thanks JenB.   :)
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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Re: Coffin cord..Scottish tradition?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 05 June 17 21:09 BST (UK) »
Aye, it's an honour for family friends to get a card!

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« Reply #4 on: Monday 05 June 17 21:19 BST (UK) »
There's always something to learn on Rootschat!  Thanks Skoosh.  :)
Howard , Viney , Kingsman, Pain/e, Rainer/ Rayner, Barham, George, Wakeling (Catherine), Vicary (Frederick)   all LDN area/suburbs  Ottley/ MDX,
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Re: Coffin cord..Scottish tradition?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 05 June 17 21:47 BST (UK) »
In the highlands and islands, until about 25 years ago women could not attend funerals at all, and in my mother's home village the cords are still given to male relatives in order of closeness (eldest son, second son, brother, nephew etc).  The coffin is carried to the graveside by all male mourners taking it in turns, with the chief mourners resuming their places as pall-bearers just before the coffin reaches the graveside. The undertaker hands you a card with your cord number, and calls the numbers in order. The cords are thrown in at the end of the interment.

When my grandmother died in 1985 my cousin Lesley stood up at the end of the service in the house ready to go the the cemetery, and was very quickly and firmly told that was NOT appropriate. I see that the practice varies further south, where widows and sisters not only now stand at the graveside but can hold a cord

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 05 June 17 21:52 BST (UK) »
It certainly happened in Glasgow, not common now as burials are rare! Highland funerals commonly have a wee service outside the house of the deceased then to the burial in the kirkyard 

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« Reply #7 on: Monday 05 June 17 22:02 BST (UK) »
When visiting family in West Yorkshire in late 1960s- 1970s and reading the local newspaper there were often announcements of funerals but for "gentlemen only to meet at....".

Nobody could explain why.
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Re: Coffin cord..Scottish tradition?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 06 June 17 08:54 BST (UK) »
Tv news coverage of the young Scottish girl killed in Manchester and I was curious about the white cord that was being held at the front of the coffin.

Is this a Scottish tradition?  It is not something I have seen in England.

Glad you asked that Nanny Jan, I too wondered about that white cord!
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