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Re: Who was Bertram Mitford's wife?
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 10 January 19 09:36 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Neville, very interesting.

I've only been researching the family of William Alexander Allardice, because it's his wife Helen Guthrie who is my connection to your family, so I have not looked in detail at earlier generations and I don't have immediate answers to your other questions.

However Francis Molison Allardice, son of John Allardice, coffee planter, and Caroline Ann, was born on 19 June 1862 and baptised on 13 September 1862 at Chudderghaut, Hurryhur, Madras. I have not found another child of this couple.

Do the gravestones contain any more information, for example the date of John's death?
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Who was Bertram Mitford's wife?
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 10 January 19 10:06 GMT (UK) »
John Allardice died in 1862. I guess from malaria or tropical diseases

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Re: Who was Bertram Mitford's wife?
« Reply #20 on: Thursday 10 January 19 10:40 GMT (UK) »
John Allardice died in 1862. I guess from malaria or tropical diseases
Probably. Pity it hadn't given an exact date - if he had died between the birth and baptism of Francis Molison Allardice it would have been stronger evidence that it was the same John Allardice.

I can't find a marriage of John Allardice to Caroline, or another child.

I think Francis Mol(l)ison was the great-great-grandfather of John Allardice (1824-1862) but you will know from other correspondence that there are some inconsistencies in the evidence. Also that what I would really, really like to find is a link between the Mol(l)lisons in Brechin and the ones in Craigendowie in Lethnot.
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith

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Re: Who was Bertram Mitford's wife?
« Reply #21 on: Saturday 12 January 19 14:27 GMT (UK) »
I had a look at Cannon/Lowe connections.

Margaret Ouchterlony Lowe (1780-1850) married the Reverend David Cannan (1774-1854) in Brechin in 1804. He was minister of Kirriemuir, then Murroes, then Mains and Strathmartine. There were 11 children including Thomas, born 1817.

Thomas was a planter in Mysore. He made a will in 1859, leaving legacies to his cousins, Helen Jane, William Alexander and George James Campbell, three of the five children of William Patrick Allardice, whom he appointed an Executor along with William Campbell Onslow, whose son Harrington later married Helen Jane Allardice.

He also left legacies to David and Margaret Forgan, 'commonly known as Cannan', the children of his late sister Helen Cannan (1812/3- 1845) from her marriage to James Forgan (1806/11- 1852), and to the children of his brother Alexander Cannan, Captain in the Madras Army.

James Forgan appears to have blotted his copybook. He was tried at the spring circuit in Perth (that's the original Perth, not its namesake Perth, Western Australia) on 26 April 1852 on charges of theft, habit and repute, and previous conviction. He died in Dundee Prison about three weeks later and was buried in the Howff, Dundee on 22 May 1852. There are court papers in the National Records of Scotland but I have not seen these.

So yes, Margaret Ouchterlony Lowe was the sister of Catherine Lowe. Their parents were Joseph Low(e) and Margaret Young.

Wouldn't it be interesting to know why he left nothing to his cousin John McDermid Allardice, brother of the three cousins to whom he did leave legacies? And why he passed over all the rest of his 10 siblings and their families?
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AITKENHEAD, Lanarkshire; BINNY, Forfar; BLACK, New Monkland; BRYSON, Cumbernauld; BURGESS, North-East Scotland; CRUICKSHANK, Rothes; DALLAS, Botriphnie; DAVIDSON, Oyne; GUTHRIE, Angus; HOGG, Larbert; LESLIE, Rothes/Mortlach; MENDUM, England; MOLLISON, Lethnot; PATERSON, Larbert; RHIND, Forfar; SANG, Scotland; SCOTT, East Kilbride; STOR(R)I/E/Y, Shotts; THORNTON, Shotts; WADDELL, New Monkland; WILKIE, New Monkland; WILKIE, Tannadice; WYLLIE, Angus; YOUNG, Keith