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[Cas (stallc)]

Hi David,

Is this the death of your grandfather?

Deaths Jun Q 1971   
ISGAR Harry   born  20 Aug 1894    Cardiff    8b   1122    

As mentioned, Harry married Irene J Miller in Cardiff Dec Q 1919  volume 11a  page 1190

Free search of the 1939 register index has Irene J Isgar in Cardiff with 2 records closed (possibly children still living by 1991, when the register closed, it was updated till then by the NHS) Register and free to search the index http://www.findmypast.co.uk/1939register

The couple appear to have had 3 children 1920 -1928 mothers maiden name Miller. You can search here https://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Are any of these still living?

Rootschat Policy allows no living individuals to be named due to identity protection. Your mother is likely child of above marriage, born 1922.

Harry is not with family in 1939 register as rejoined with the forces in 1938. Fought in WW1 also.

Medal card - http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D3048307

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

Looks to be the parents/family of Harry in 1901 census

1901 - 53, Railway Street, Roath, Cardiff, Glamorganshire

George   Isgar   Head   Married   Male   40      Wagon Builders Labourer   Barrington, Somerset
Margery   Isgar   Wife   Married   Female   38   Cardiff, Glamorgan
Cissie   Isgar   Daughter   Single Female   15   Domestic Servant   Cardiff, Glamorgan
George   Isgar   Son   Single   Male   10      Cardiff, Glamorgan
Harry   Isgar   Son   Single   Male   8      Cardiff, Glamorgan
Bertie   Isgar   Son   Single   Male   1      Cardiff, Glamorgan

All children baptisms have same parents, fathers occ. lab

Firstborn to couple, Thomas William https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VFHN-C1P born 1882

Cissie is registered Margery https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCYF-JK4 address 23 Caruae? St

George - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCYN-W5L address 111 Carlisle St

Harry bapt see next page.

Twins Margaret Louisa & Miriam birth registered March Q 1898 Mmn Hinton

Possible Death    
ISGAR, MARGARET  LOUISA  age   2  (this could be 2 days or mths)   
GRO Reference: 1898  M Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 182

Death
ISGAR, MIRIAM    Age 2     
GRO Reference: 1900  J Quarter in CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 192
 
Bertie - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCYN-6D3 same address as 1901

Last born Gladys Mary - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCYN-GHY same address as 1901

[Cas (stallc)]

Birth registrations has mothers maiden name as Hinton for all children.

Register and free to search https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/indexes_search.asp

Name:   Mother's Maiden Surname:    
ISGAR, HARRY       HINTON 
GRO Reference: 1894  S Quarter OF CARDIFF  Volume 11A  Page 372

Baptism - https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KCYN-CYH has parents George & Margery of 11 Howard Street. George is a labourer.

FreeBMD
Marriages Dec Q 1881  same page
HINTON    Margery Ann     Cardiff    11a   503    
ISGAR    George        Cardiff    11a   503    

baptisms can be found here https://familysearch.org/search

Cas

[Cas (stallc)]

George Isgar junior was killed in action WW1 (brother of Harry)

http://www.cwgc.org/find-war-dead/casualty/436514/ISGAR,%20G

Cas

[David Gough]

hi all

to all who have contributed to this thread i am very grateful. much useful information has emerged thanks to all. to clarify : i am the biological son of phylis may wilson nee isgar. phylis was last residing in penarth so i was told. she has no connection with the devon side as she was definately cardiff born and bred. 77 frank road ely was her address prior to her marrige to wilson  in 1944 her marrige certificate states she was in the  RAF.  L.A.C/W 428065 W.A.A.F (MACHINIST). most likely st athan. wilson was also RAF L.A.C 1138826 APPRENTICE FITTER). hence there meeting. it would also appear that according to kellys directory of 1964 the mentioned brother of phylis   harold r isgar was living at 7 dunmuir road tremorfa.