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Not such nice records
« on: Sunday 25 June 17 14:03 BST (UK) »
I am looking into my Great Grandad Thomas Rowland Thexton's records. Born 1871 in Chesterfield.He lived in Sheffield and moved to aston Birmingham in 1911. He was  killed in WW1 Nairobi Africa 23rd Nov 1915.
 I have found 2 records which I am not sure if they are his or not.He does have an unusal name so they could be correct.
 One is Lunacy Patients admission registers 1846-1912
the other is Police register of non payment of wife maintenance 1912 april .HMP Wakefield.
 I wondered if people think these are him or someone else?
It is harder to believe not such nice records than the good ones??
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Re: Not such nice records
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 25 June 17 14:12 BST (UK) »
One is Lunacy Patients admission registers 1846-1912
the other is Police register of non payment of wife maintenance 1912 april .HMP Wakefield.

I think it may be best to establish roughly when he was in the Asylum?

This may be possible by checking his whereabouts on census records as you don't give any specifics to his life such as when he married/when/where children were born/where living/when at different times which could point to either of the above?

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Re: Not such nice records
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 25 June 17 14:59 BST (UK) »
The name on the  Lunacy Patient Admission is Thos T Thexton and he was discharged 4/3/1893 your Thomas married in January 1893 so I don't believe they are the same person.
The Thomas in HMP Wakefield his occupation is a Labourer and your Thomas occupation in 1911 is an Engine Driver so that is doubtful as well, but I'm not to sure about that one.

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« Reply #3 on: Sunday 25 June 17 15:11 BST (UK) »
The name on the  Lunacy Patient Admission is Thos T Thexton and he was discharged 4/3/1893 your Thomas married in January 1893 so I don't believe they are the same person.
The Thomas in HMP Wakefield his occupation is a Labourer and your Thomas occupation in 1911 is an Engine Driver so that is doubtful as well, but I'm not to sure about that one.

There is a Thomas Thistlethwaite THEXTON b 1863 m 1887 ,who is most likely the Thomas T mentioned above.On the latest 3 censuses he is a Quarryman.
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday 25 June 17 19:10 BST (UK) »
Arh I thought it said Thomas R Thexton. It would be good if they are not him. He married in 1893 and had the first son Thomas Gilbert Thexton 1894,Harry 1899,Edna Thexton 1906,Patricia 1908 and Rowland 1911

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« Reply #5 on: Sunday 25 June 17 19:30 BST (UK) »
It would have been easier to post all known facts at the beginning ;D

His full name wouldn't be a problem where names are shortened with an initial for middle name but it gives researchers a better idea of who they're looking for.


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Edit....Realised you had mistaken the middle initial   ;)
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

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Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Not such nice records
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 25 June 17 21:41 BST (UK) »
Eccles (Hoylake / Exeter / Plymouth)
Hicks (Devonport, Plymouth)
Grafton (Exeter, Devon)
Harris (Marazion, Cornwall)
Collard (Yeovil, Somerset)
Johns (Devonport, Plymouth)
Lyle (Bude, Cornwall)

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Re: Not such nice records
« Reply #7 on: Monday 26 June 17 20:24 BST (UK) »
Thankyou.
 Thomas Rowland Thexton was supposed to be in the Army prior to rejoining for WW1 Is there a way of searching for this?

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« Reply #8 on: Monday 26 June 17 23:04 BST (UK) »
Thankyou.
 Thomas Rowland Thexton was supposed to be in the Army prior to rejoining for WW1 Is there a way of searching for this?

I see that he married Sarah Ann Lilley on 27th Feb 1893 in Sheffield,he was described as a clerk.

Do you have any of the children's birth certs that name him as an Army man?
Just so we can narrow down the dates of searching for his army record.
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