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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 26 July 17 22:17 BST (UK) »
Oh, and I'm pretty darn sure that it would be a limit of 160 downloads not views - I don't see why they'd want to restrict just viewing the images
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #37 on: Thursday 27 July 17 00:25 BST (UK) »
Really?
I was just thinking how hard it would be to even view 160 images never mind save them. The libraries I've been to are only open for about 3 hours on any one day.

I can obviously skim read a lot faster. ;)  That said, yes most centres are only open for up to 3 hours per day, although a couple near me open for 4 hours on a Saturday and the centre I used to attend was for a while opening for 6 hours on a Wednesday but demand dropped off a few years back and they returned to only 3 hours in the morning.

Forgive me for saying, goldie61, but I think you could make that process a little more efficient by using the catalogue.

That's what I tend to do anyway when looking for what has been digitised.  And I agree the thumbnails option is very useful for finding your place even when there are multiple registers on one digitised film.  In the case of the latter, its useful to know which item on the film the register is, and then watch for the Start/End of film images.

Oh, and I'm pretty darn sure that it would be a limit of 160 downloads not views - I don't see why they'd want to restrict just viewing the images

I would hope so but you never know.  That said, in 3 or 4 hours even I'd have to go somewhat to do that many downloads, browsing though is something else. ;D
(KENT) Lingwell, Rayment (BUCKS) Read, Hutchins (SRY) Costin, Westbrook (DOR) Gibbs, Goreing (DUR) Green (ESX) Rudland, Malden, Rouse, Boosey (FIFE) Foulis, Russell (NFK) Johnson, Farthing, Purdy, Barsham (GLOS) Collett, Morris, Freebury, May, Kirkman (HERTS) Winchester, Linford (NORTHANTS) Bird, Brimley, Chater, Wilford, Read, Chapman, Jeys, Marston, Lumley (WILTS) Arden, Whatley, Batson, Gleed, Greenhill (SOM) Coombs, Watkins (RUT) Stafford (BERKS) Sansom, Angel, Young, Stratton, Weeks, Day

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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 27 July 17 04:18 BST (UK) »
Saving images is definitely the way to go but there is a limit of about 160 downloads per visit so don't go too nuts.

Is the limit definitely only for saving and not for the number of images viewed please? 

I could easily get through viewing that number of images in a short space of time. :-\

Sorry for the late reply. I only meant downloading by hitting the download button :)

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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 27 July 17 04:19 BST (UK) »
Forgive me for saying, goldie61, but I think you could make that process a little more efficient by using the catalogue

For example Bromley, Kent gives

General register (baptisms, 1558-1714; marriages, 1575-1734; burials, 1578-1678); Baptisms, 1558-1844.

1042453 Items 3 - 7

Baptisms, 1844-1877; Marriages, 1735-1837.

1042454

Marriages, 1837-1880.

1042455

Burials, 1678-1880; Banns, 1838-1875.

1042456

and more, which gives you an idea of the film you need and where each section is in the film


When you go to the actual image screen,  if you click on the thumbnail view you see about 30 images on the screen.

With the information you have from the catalogue you can either scroll down a suitable amount or guesstimate a good starting page number - and if you're wrong, the catalogue gives an idea of how wrong

Only parish registers are set out this well though. For BTs, MIs, parish chests, etc. you're in for a harder time:

Quote from: Nichol Forest BTs
Baptisms, marriages, burials, 1788-1789, 1784-1785, 1777-1778, 1766-1767, 1772-1773, 1771-1772, 1770-1771, 1769-1770, 1768-1769, 1764-1765, 1763-1764, 1775-1776, 1773-1774, 1762-1763, 1756-1757, 1761-1762, 1767-1768, 1765-1766, 1780, 1778-1779, 1782-1783, 1781, 1787, 1785, 1789, baptisms, 1791, 1790, baptisms, marriages, 1792, marriages, 1794, baptisms, marriages, 1793, baptisms, 1794, baptisms, marriages, 1796, 1795, 1797-1802, baptisms, marriages, burials, 1806-1807, baptisms,1805-1806, 1809-1810, baptisms, marriages, 1808, 1810-1813, baptisms, marriages, 1816-1817, baptisms, marriages, burials, 1818-1820, baptisms, 1821, baptisms, marriages, burials, 1822, baptisms, marriages, 1823, baptisms, marriages, burials, burials, 1824, 1828, 1827, baptisms, burials, 1826, 1825, baptisms, 1831, marriages, 1826, 1825, 1831, baptisms, marriages, burials, 1830, 1829, 1832-1834, baptisms, burials, 1837, baptisms, marriages, burials, 1836, 1835, baptisms, burials, 1842, 1841, 1840, baptisms, 1838-1839, burials, 1838, baptisms, burials, 1843, burials, 1844, baptisms, 1845, marriages, 1837, 1839, 1845, 1844, 1843, 1850, 1845, 1847, 1846, 1853, 1840, 1852, 1856-1857, 1859, baptisms, 1843-1844, baptisms, burials, 1850, 1849, baptisms, 1846-1848, burials, 1846-1848, baptisms, burials, 1853, 1852, 1851, 1854, 1856-1857, burials, 1850, baptisms, burials, 1862, baptisms, 1858, baptisms, burials, 1859, burials, 1858, baptisms, 1863-1865, burials, 1862-1865, baptisms, 1868-1870, burials, 1868-1870, baptisms, 1865-1867, burials, 1866, baptisms, 1871-1873, burials, 1871-1873, 1855, 1861, baptisms, 1855, 1860-1861, marriages, baptisms, 1815.


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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 27 July 17 04:48 BST (UK) »
BTs are in chronological order though. Once you find the right year, you just have to twiddle around a bit.

Hmm, thinking about it, the Sudbury BT films have caused me to curse quite copiously, so, yes, not always straightforward.
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE

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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 27 July 17 05:09 BST (UK) »
Yes of course I use the catalogue to find the correct film. and then see what it has on it so you can make an estimate of where to start looking for a particular bmd. (Can't think how else you could get to the film, you want).
But even then I have found it is not that straightforward. Things get out of place, or a family has had several children christened together and the one you want is not in the right chronological at all, (although it might give that date on a 'record search'), but way down the line somewhere, or the register of the place you want is amongst registers of other places on that one film, and the 'Item 3' you want, could start at anywhere between image '250' and image '800' out of over 1000 images on that film. So to say you only have to look at 30 images to find what you want has not been my experience at all.

Still think you'd be pushing it to download 160 images a visit.
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs

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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 27 July 17 12:20 BST (UK) »
Still think you'd be pushing it to download 160 images a visit.

If you have a lot of interest in a particular parish then yes it is possible, I've done it on SEAX before now just downloading the pages of interest in a couple of hours.
(KENT) Lingwell, Rayment (BUCKS) Read, Hutchins (SRY) Costin, Westbrook (DOR) Gibbs, Goreing (DUR) Green (ESX) Rudland, Malden, Rouse, Boosey (FIFE) Foulis, Russell (NFK) Johnson, Farthing, Purdy, Barsham (GLOS) Collett, Morris, Freebury, May, Kirkman (HERTS) Winchester, Linford (NORTHANTS) Bird, Brimley, Chater, Wilford, Read, Chapman, Jeys, Marston, Lumley (WILTS) Arden, Whatley, Batson, Gleed, Greenhill (SOM) Coombs, Watkins (RUT) Stafford (BERKS) Sansom, Angel, Young, Stratton, Weeks, Day

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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 05 August 17 18:28 BST (UK) »
Well I spent 3 hours in one of the FHCs this morning and downloaded 111 images (all Wills) to a memory stick. ;D  Would have been a few more probably if they'd filmed a few more folio numbers originally and there were on quite a few different "films".

Annoyingly the FHC is now shut for 3 weeks to get all the building's carpets replaced so shall have to be patient or see if can visit one of the others in the area. :-\

Interestingly I didn't have to login with my Familysearch id and password, worked just logged on to one of their computer's as a "patron".
(KENT) Lingwell, Rayment (BUCKS) Read, Hutchins (SRY) Costin, Westbrook (DOR) Gibbs, Goreing (DUR) Green (ESX) Rudland, Malden, Rouse, Boosey (FIFE) Foulis, Russell (NFK) Johnson, Farthing, Purdy, Barsham (GLOS) Collett, Morris, Freebury, May, Kirkman (HERTS) Winchester, Linford (NORTHANTS) Bird, Brimley, Chater, Wilford, Read, Chapman, Jeys, Marston, Lumley (WILTS) Arden, Whatley, Batson, Gleed, Greenhill (SOM) Coombs, Watkins (RUT) Stafford (BERKS) Sansom, Angel, Young, Stratton, Weeks, Day

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Re: LDS - Family History Microfilm Discontinuation
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 05 August 17 21:45 BST (UK) »

Interestingly I didn't have to login with my Familysearch id and password, worked just logged on to one of their computer's as a "patron".

I think that's the only way to see the images smudwhisk. Had you logged in with your own id and password, it would still not recognise you were logging in from an LDS centre, and hence able to view the films.
It's  a great resource isn't it!  :)
Lane, Burgess: Cheshire. Finney, Rogers, Gilman:Derbys
Cochran, Nicol, Paton, Bruce:Scotland. Bertolle:London
Bainbridge, Christman, Jeffs: Staffs