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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 06:29 BST (UK) »
Good find, CaroleW! ;D

That makes the 2nd birth I found, in Morpeth RD, far more likely.
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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 08:25 BST (UK) »
From Freereg

Baptism at Bothal St Andrew

Henry SMITH son of Margaret Smith, abode Broomhill 4 January 1838

More about Bothal

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/Bothal
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 08:43 BST (UK) »
1841 census
HO107/834/8/10
New Moor South Farm, Bothal NBL  All born In NBL

Henry SMITH  78
Barbarra SMITH 77
Henry SMITH  29
Margaret SMITH 27
Mary SMITH 14
John SMITH   6
Henry SMITH  3

familysearch has Henry SMITH age 13 grandson born Bothal 1838, in  1851 census NBL

Henry SMITH a carter, single, born Bothal 1838 , in  1861 working for Charlton WATSON at Shilvington West House, Shilvington, Ponteland NBL  RG9/3852 folio 62 page 9 schedule 35
Bulman, DUR
Butterfield DUR & N. YKS,
Earnshaw DUR
Hopps DUR & N. YKS
Howe, Richardson,Thompson all DUR

William Thompson violin maker Bishop Auckland
William Thompson jun. Violin maker Leeds

Richardson in Bermondsey/East Ham, descendants of William Richardson b. 1820 Bishop Auckland

Berger, Fritsch, Ritschel, Pechanz, Funke, Endesfelder & others from Czechia

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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 08:48 BST (UK) »
Thanks, Carole, very interesting. There is a mention in my files somewhere of a Richard Summers, I will have to trawl through some letters again and resurrect.
So, if I have this right:
Henry Smith 1838/9 married Margaret Elliott 1845 (father William Elliott) in 1862. His father was a Richard Summers of Shadfen. Richard (father Matthew) had married a Margaret Smith of Hepscott in 1851, in Morpeth, her father being Henry Smith.
So we don't know exactly who Henry 1838's mother was. He had the name Smith which suggests his mother was a Smith, intriguing.
Just as I was typing this a reply came in from fiddlerslass, which points us to Margaret being Henry 1838's mother. Perhaps she and R Summers eventually married some years later and Henry just kept the Smith name?
then another post from fiddlerslass, thanks, more food for thought
thank you, all, very helpful, I will absorb and see if i can work this all out.


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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 10:33 BST (UK) »
1851 census for Henry Smith has grandparents as Henry and Barbara Smith (she is shown as born Ellingham). Margaret Smith is showing as born Warkworth age 36.

There is this baptism in Warkworth for Margaret Smith born Sept 17 bapt Oct 21 1810 2nd daughter of Henry Smith of Acklington Coalhouses Native of Bamborough by his wife Barbara Stafford Native of Ellingham Parish.

The only Margaret Summers married to a Richard Summers in Northumberland in the 1861 census is showing as born Acklington in 1809.

The ages are clearly inconsistent but add the above to the mix for your consideration.

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Re: Birth and parents of Henry Smith
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 04 July 17 19:09 BST (UK) »
Thanks, William,
Yes, dates and birth places are often somewhat inconsistent, but often the truth comes out in the wash.
Thanks for the help.
John