Henry Lettis born 1808 St Clement Danes Middx

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Henry was my maternal Grt Grt Grandfather a locksmith by trade and married to Ann Bolt in 1844.Their surname became Bolt Lettis. They had 4 children Ann Elizabeth Bolt Lettis 1846, Henry Bolt Lettis 1848, Mary Bolt Lettis 1851 and Elizabeth Sarah Bolt Lettis 1862.

I am trying to trace Ann Elizabeth and Elizabeth Sarah. One problem is in the census of 1861 and 1871, Henry Lettis is Henry Williams together with some of his children. Though in 1871 Henry his son has his marriage banns and he is Bolt Lettis and his father is Henry Lettis and his sister Ann Elizabeth is Bolt Lettis and a witness. She is also a witness in 1875 to her sister Mary.

As Mary was widowed she remarried in 1891 and her father is shown as Henry Williams deceased and one of the witnesses was an Annie Williams, could that be Ann E.

In the census of 1881 Henry and his wife are again Lettis and in that year Henry died and his name on the death certificate is Henry Lettice but that is just a misspelling.

How is it that Henry can change his name for the census and what happened to his daughters, did they marry and when did they die.

[rosie99]

The name Bolt seems to have been added as an extra  'christian' name on the childrens birth registrations.  It is obviously up to them how many of their names they use when completing forms or signing documents.  It was quite common for a mothers maiden name to be added to childrens names.

Perhaps you could give us the census references where you have the family in 1861 & 1871 as Williams    When did you last have Ann E & Sarah on census

1861 -RG9/122 f60 p52

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For 1871 I have RG10/246 page39.
Thanks Paul

[rosie99]

For 1871 I have RG10/246 page39.
Thanks Paul

Sorry, I am not getting a result on that 1871 reference 

Who is living in the household

OK found it thanks 
RG10/246 folio 56 page 38 - Mansfield Place
Parents Henry & Ann with children Henry & Elizabeth.  I had been wondering whether Elizabeth was with them and whether she could have been known as Sarah. 

Wife Ann Lettis died in 1882 to save anyone looking for her on next census

[Lily M]

1871   36 Mansfield Place,   St.Pancras

Henry Williams   62   Locksmith
Ann                    52
Henry                  23
Elizabeth               9

As the family lived in Market Street using both Lettis and Williams,  then Mansfield Place (again using both names)  I'm guessing that the name, Williams, was only ever used on the census form.     Could Henry have been trying to avoid being found?

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Rosie, I have on the 1851 census Henry and Ann Lettis with Ann Elizabeth age 5 and Henry age 3 and living at 23 Market Strt.

1861 Henry and Ann Williams with Henry age 13 and Mary age 10 living at 1 Haverstock Strt
1871 Henry and Ann Williams with Henry 23 and Elizabeth Sarah as on her baptism record living Mansfield Pl.

1871 Henry junior gets married and his sister Ann Elizabeth is a witness and they all have the name Lettis. With father shown as Henry Lettis.

Paul

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Lily, an interesting theory about not being found, do you think as a locksmith he might have had some nefarious dealings.
In actual fact when Henry's daughter Mary(who was my Grt grandma) remarried in 1891after the death of her first husband ,she was then Mary Kennedy and her father was Henry Williams deceased as shown on the marriage banns and one of the witnessing was an Annie Williams. So the Williams name continued but what happened to Ann Elizabeth and her sister Elizabeth Sarah perhaps I shall never know.
Thanks for your interest
Paul

[rosie99]

I would think if Henry was running away from something he would have moved out of London. 

Have you compared the signatures of Ann E Lettis and Annie Williams 

[jonw65]

Could Elizabeth Sarah have still been alive in 1939?
On her baptism in St Pancras, a date of birth is given - 24 March 1862
A search of the free index to the 1939 Register brings up
Elizabeth S. B. Davis born 24.3.1862, living in Wembley

After much fiddling about looking for the right Elizabeth Davis as "other household member" in Wembley, it appears that she was with
Charles S Cathcart, born 1893
May F (Florence M) Cathcart, born 1894

Likely marriage for those two
Sep 1925 Paddington 1a 65
Cathcart, Charles S.
Davis, Florence M.

Florence's death -
Dec 1977 Leighton B. 9 297
Cathcart, Florence May
d-o-b 30 June 1894

And her likely birth?
Sep 1894 Paddington 1a 67
Davis, Florence May
mother's maiden surname Williams

Something to investigate perhaps
John