Griffith Jones

[Wodgemac]

No, it just says Wales.
I've messaged her to try and confirm if it is a definite link

[Gadget]

There are a few Llangollen bpt for a John Williams around that time ~

Dec 7 1787 - son of Hugh and Frances (mn Philips) of Trefor Isaf
Jan 14 1788 -son of William and Martha (mn Evans),strangers
Oct 13 1789 - son  John  and Mary (mn Jones) of Trefor Uchaf
Nov 29 1789 - son of Thomas and Gwen (mn Jones)  of Trefor Uchaf

No Hugh and Mary - maybe you could check the non-c records on FamilySearch

[wilcoxon]

A little more about William and Hannah and the area they lived in 1851/61/71.
In 1861 and 1871 two of William and Hannah`s daughters were paper workers.
In 1871 Hannah is at the Old Wire Mill.
On this map surveyed 1872, the wire mill is shown as disused.
Hope paper mills are opposite  the Holly Bush.
There is a track at the side of the New Inn, if you follow the river there are some old houses  I`m  sure this is  Wire Mill Cottage .
Coflein confirms it.

http://www.coflein.gov.uk/en/site/40428/details/cefn-y-bedd-wiremill-cefn-y-bedd#site-details

[wilcoxon]

This is a modern  map view. Wire Mill cottage and New Inn are to RH of red dot.

[Wodgemac]

Wow,
Thank you.
It doesn't look to have been built up much over the years.

[Wodgemac]

Just been onto my old findmypast account and looked at a 1911 census for Griffith jones born 1867 in Manchester and amongst all his children are an Elizabeth and an Eliza born a year apart, so it must've been a family thing then.

[Gadget]

Just been onto my old findmypast account and looked at a 1911 census for Griffith jones born 1867 in Manchester and amongst all his children are an Elizabeth and an Eliza born a year apart, so it must've been a family thing then.

 

[wilcoxon]

This Edward died sometime between 1774 and 1777, so William Jones cannot be his son.
He does have a son Edward.
There is a William and a Griffith, who were his grandsons, could this possibly be the same family.
The will is worth reading,
1777 will Edward Jones
http://hdl.handle.net/10107/162688


Jones, Edward, Abermorddu, Hope, Flint, The Elder/Blacksmith
Signed 2  May 1774. Proved 3 May 1777
Friend Thomas Williams of the Pigeon House, Hope.
Thomas Hughes of Cummey ,( Cymmau)  miller.
Two grandsons Edward and John.
Edward Yong.
Edward Jones (son)
Jenne ? Jones (daughter)
Grandson William Jones shall learn the trade of blacksmith
Grandson Richard Jones
Granddaughter Dorothy Rice ?
Grandaughter Margaret Jones.
Four grandchildren William, Griffith, Margaret and Richard.

[Wodgemac]

Blimey,
I've not really read that many wills, but that does seem quite an in-depth one, or were they usually like that.
So if it is William Jones 1791 family, we need to find a link between William the grandson who was to become a blacksmith and William who was a blacksmith?
Edward seemed to be quite well off too, I suppose blacksmiths were always busy in those days.
Thank you for that, it made really interesting reading