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Ellen Burke
« on: Sunday 09 July 17 02:59 BST (UK) »
I have run into a brick wall with this in-law. The only document I can get is a 1913 marriage cert at Scarborough, Yorks where she is given as Ellen Atkin, age 23. Father James Atkin. Problem is there is no Ellen Atkin born in 1890. James Atkin is also elusive, the only entry that fits is the 1881 census where he is a ship's master, docked at Hull. On the marriage cert  there is a witness: Elizabeth Wilkinson. One of Ellen's grandchildren tells me that Ellen was born out of wedlock to Elizabeth's sister but raised by Elizabeth and husband Joseph who was a solicitor (or similar) in York. Ellen went to school at Harrogate so this seems possible. It is likely that James Atkin was the biological father and took over his daughter when he retired and she assumed his name. I can't find Joseph in York and would like help in finding the marriage of Elizabeth and Joseph, so that we can get Eliza's maiden name and so trace her sister who would have registered Ellen's birth - in her own name presumably. I would also like help with James Atkin, birth, death, anything. Ellen and her five children are all deceased.James Atkin managed to avoid all the census', including the 1911. There are problems with Ellen's husband, Arthur, but will come to him after we have sorted Ellen out.

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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 July 17 04:19 BST (UK) »
There is a marriage between..

Joseph Atkin and Elizabeth Caygill. 1898. York.

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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 July 17 06:29 BST (UK) »
Did Ellen have an occupation on the marriage certificate, and have you found her on any of the censuses?

There are Ellen Atkins born in 1889/1890 - just not in Yorkshire.

Who gave you the name of Joseph Wilkinson?

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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 July 17 07:06 BST (UK) »
Hi
Yorkshire Gazette 29th May 1886
Marriage
Wilkinson-Atkin
On Tuesday the 25th inst at the parish church Matlock by the Rev W R Melville, rector, Joseph Wilkinson, solicitor of York to Elizabeth Atkin daughter of James Atkin of Whalley, Lancashire.

Cathy
Sinnock/Sinnicks...Brighton,Greenwich.
Clements,Coles,Mc Donagh,Rock

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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 July 17 07:27 BST (UK) »
1891 census gives Joseph Wilkinson, solicitor, age 67, with Elizabeth age 35 born Church Fenton.

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There is a death in 1900, York, for a Joseph Wilkinson age 76.

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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 July 17 07:40 BST (UK) »
Ancestry has Elizabeth in 1861 living in Church Fenton with parents James and Margaret and siblings John E and William, but image very faint and no surname for family originally given.

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In 1871 the family are in Tadcaster district with children Elizabeth, John E, William, James Henry, Alfred, Albert Robert, Tom, and a female baby of 2 weeks.

The baby is Margaret A Atkin in 1881 census.

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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 July 17 07:59 BST (UK) »
We cannot quote the 1911 census, but suggest you look up who Margaret A Atkin is living with in 1911.

However, the Ellen Atkin born in Blackburn in 1890 has mmn Feeney.

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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 July 17 08:00 BST (UK) »
Margaret is a servant in Blackburn in censuses.
1911 indexes shows Margaret Ann Atkins born Ulleskelf, Yorks still in Blackburn.
There is an Ellen Atkin born abt 1890 Blackburn in the indexes.

Sorry chemist, posts clashed. We are allowed to post what is in the indexes but no more.
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Re: Ellen Burke
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 July 17 08:05 BST (UK) »
I have problems with indexes and which bits can be tied together or quoted etc.

This marriage for Ellen's parents?

Marriages December quarter  1883 
James Atkin  Blackburn  8e   665   
Margaret Feeney Blackburn    8e   665