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Elizabeth M A Vickers
« on: Sunday 09 July 17 21:40 BST (UK) »
Hi guys,I recently rejoined ancestry after coming across another family riddle but have been unable to crack it. My great granddad Robert purvis of Wolverhampton remarried to Elizabeth m a Vickers in 1944 after the death of his first wife Sophia, but though I know Elizabeth died in 1962 I cannot find  any info of her previous, her father  is recorded as Richard Wilkinson on her marriage cert and she was 62 - a widow - in 1944 but I'd greatly appreciate if an expert can point me in the right direction of where she was born and when etc.

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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #1 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:05 BST (UK) »
I've found her on the 1939 free search (have no sub to check details) In Wolverhampton. No middle names, sorry. Birth given as 1882.

Also on the record is a William Vickers b 1875, who dies in 1941. No guarantee this is her husband, though as I can;t find a matching marriage. She could of course have been married previously before she became Mrs Vickers, given WWI, Spanish flu etc.

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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
What were her full names from the 1944 marriage cert please?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:15 BST (UK) »
Hi possibly look at the marriage of Elizabeth M* A* SUTHERLAND to William Vickers 1917 Aston?
Possibly a second marriage?

An Elizabeth Mary A Wilkinson married possibly a Walter Eldred Sutherland March qtr 1902 Hackney?
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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:18 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much, it makes things tricky when ancestors start adding or leaving out middle names when they like.

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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:20 BST (UK) »
I don't think she has added or missed out any middle names, has she?
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:22 BST (UK) »
Elizabeth Mary Ann Wilkinson, aged 20, father Richard Wilkinson, turner (deceased)
Walter Eldred Sutherland, aged 24, miner, father Hugh George Eldred Sutherland, printer (deceased)
Marriage     30 Mar 1902     St Bartholomew, Dalston

Elizabeth made her mark

Some trees on Ancestry have the Aston marriage involving a couple of a different age,

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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:25 BST (UK) »
Possible birth reg: Elizabeth Mary Ann Wilkinson mmn Busher, Jun qtr 1882 Bethnal Green.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Elizabeth M A Vickers
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 09 July 17 22:25 BST (UK) »
Walter claims to be a bachelor, although he appears to have previously married in 1898