Thomas Thompson, finding his family

[pharmaT]

I've posted this in Common Room as it covers more than one county.  I have really confused myself with my husband's grandfather's family and could do with some help to clarify where to go next.

His grandfather was Thomas Arthur thompson born in Aston, Birmingham in 1904.  Birth certificate gives parents as Charles Thompson and Elizabeth Talbot.  I I have found what I think to be the family in 1911 census and they claim to have been married 11 years but no corresponding marriage that year. 

The Thompson children in age order appear to be Gladys, Elizabeth, John, Thomas, James and Pattie.  They had a boarder Harold Davis with them in 1911.  Gladys, Elizabeth and John were all born in Manchester and the younger ones in Birmingham.

I was unable to find a birth for a Gladys Thompson in the right time frame.  Then I found charles in the 1901 as a boarder in Manchester with a Charles Davis, his wife Elizabeth and children Harold and Gladys.  So I started investigating if Charles Thompson had married Elizabeth Davis and taken on children from her first marriage.  I found births in the index for a Harold  Davis and Gladys Davis but mmn Johnson and found a corresponding marriage for a Charles Davis to an Elizabeth Johnson.

So I started considering he had takenon Elizabeth Johnson then gone with another Elizabeth.  However Elizabeth Thompson is mmn Johnson (no corresponding birth mmn Talbot), then Thomas mmn Talbot (no corresponding birth mmn Johnson).  Then this is where it gets very confusing for me James mmn Johnson (no corresponding birth Talbot) but then Pattie mmn Talbot(no corresponding mmn Johnson).

There is a marriage in Birmingham of a Charles Thompson to an Elizabeth Johnson in 1916 and a marriage of a Charles W Thompson to an Elizabeth Talbot in 1921 but that is in Sussex.

I'm really stumped, what can I do now to figure this out?

[AMBLY]

Hi PharmaT,

I take it this is the 1901 Census you mention?

CENSUS 1901: at 8 Belmont Street, Manchester
RG13 / Piece: 3756 / Folio 52 / Pg34
Head: Charles DAVIS 28, Moulder (bedsteads) b Birmingham. Warks
Wife: Bessie Elizabeth DAVIS 26, b Staffs.
Son: Harold DAVIS 7, b Birmingham
Dau: Gladys Dora DAVIS 1, b Manchester
Boarder: Charley THOMPSON 20, unmarried, Moulder (bedsteads) b Birmingham. Warks

Could you please post the full details of the 1911 Census? We can't do lookups and post it, but you may certainly post what you already know.

Also the dates for all the children you mention.   All helps to put a perspective on things 

Cheers
AMBLY

[pharmaT]

1911 they were living at either 240 or 290 (can't quite make out writing) Arthur street Birmingham

Gladys 1900
Elizabeth 1901
John 1903
Thomas 1904
James 1906
Pattie 1909
and Harold Davis born 1894

Charles says he's 29 and Elizabeth 34.

[Annie65115]

I can't see a marriage for Charles Davis and Elizabeth Johnson, where did you find it? Any trace of either of them in 1911?

Maybe Elizabeth was a widow, so maiden name Talbot  and first married name Johnson?

[MaureeninNY]

Have you looked at the Betsy JOHNSON born 1875 Staffs with grandparents Richard and Elizabeth TALBOT-living in Aston on the 1881?

She's with Elzabeth TALBOT in 1891 as well-transcribed on A*try as Elizabeth JOHNSON born 1815.

I can't seem to open images today .

Maureen

[Kay99]

Marriages Dec 1893 Aston    6d   456  - Two of four people -  Charles Davis/ Elizabeth Johnson???

Kay

[pharmaT]

ooh I'll look thank you.

[Kay99]

1881 for the 1891 Elizabeth that Maureen found    Living in Aston

Richard Talbot 48
Elizabeth Talbot    56
John Talbot 21
Thomas Talbot 19
Elizabeth Talbot 17
Betsy Johnson 6 b Stafford, Staffordshire

[pharmaT]

Just found a Betsy Elizabeth Johnson on GRO site mmn Talbot registered sept quarter 1875 .
Progress.