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Re: William W? TURNBULL
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:09 BST (UK) »
Hi.

Debra has given you accurate information re the three 'entries' that appear at the online  INDEX.  I think that the explanation you have been given over the phone from NSW BDM is actually from their call centre team, and of course, the call centre does not have access to the actual record and likely have not ever been working with the actual records, so umm... may not understand why there's often several 'entries' in the index for the one event.   

May I suggest that you consider obtaining an official transcription of the actual marriage registration from an Official Transcriber, appointed by NSW BDM.   

ADD ... likely the column where the bride's surname is recorded has more than one surname listed there.  So the index has more than one entry for the one event.

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« Reply #10 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:11 BST (UK) »
There were at least 2 children of the KITE/GAMBRILL marriage.
 
 
GAMBRILL, IRIS  LILIAN MAY
MMS- KITE 
Year 1914
S Quarter in THANET
Volume 02A  Page 2129


GAMBRILL, BENJAMIN  GEORGE FREDERICK
MMS- KITE       
Year 1916
M Quarter in THANET
Volume 02A  Page 1884 
 
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« Reply #11 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:16 BST (UK) »
 

There are no Gambrills in Australia during that time (early 1900's) with the name George Frederick, or the other way around. having said that, I'll continue to look to alternates. I do have a 2 x George <different middle name> Gambrill & Mary that had children around that time....


 


As you will note the given names of the GAMBRILL son born 1916 (above) reflect a possible link.

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:20 BST (UK) »
There's so many occasions where the indexes have several entries for the one event that there's actually an option to check if there's more than one entry against any registration no.

At the 'top' of each online search page there's a section "Search by number only".  The default is NO, but if you select YES, you can search by the registration number.  I am surprised the call centre staff do not have a 'standard response' to enquiries about this.

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Re: William W? TURNBULL
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:23 BST (UK) »
Possibly Dorothy was widowed in 1925.

Deaths Jun 1925   

GAMBRILL  Benjamin E
Aged  37
At  Elham  2a /1258


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« Reply #14 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:25 BST (UK) »
Hi.

Debra has given you accurate information re the three 'entries' that appear at the online  INDEX.  I think that the explanation you have been given over the phone from NSW BDM is actually from their call centre team, and of course, the call centre does not have access to the actual record and likely have not ever been working with the actual records, so umm... may not understand why there's often several 'entries' in the index for the one event.   

May I suggest that you consider obtaining an official transcription of the actual marriage registration from an Official Transcriber, appointed by NSW BDM.   

JM

Ok, I hear what you are saying.
With regards the transcription, theirs is on the list to get, as is all Gambrills  (I currently have 136 transcriptions out of the 329 that are available)

I initiated public research of William and Dorothy because I had found no connection to my tree.
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« Reply #15 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:32 BST (UK) »
I initiated public research of William and Dorothy because I had found no connection to my tree.

Well, have you now?
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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 13 July 17 01:59 BST (UK) »
I've been looking at findmypast using the references above (thankyou) for Benjamin and Dorothy.

I think at this point, I need connect Benjamin to my tree so i'll do some further research as to his linage. There are a couple of Gambrill branches that I havent been able to link to mine, so i'm hoping I can make that connection with Ben then I can follow through to his wife Dorothy and NSW.

Thankyou for your guidance, thoughts, suggestions etc.
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Re: William W? TURNBULL
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 13 July 17 02:26 BST (UK) »
I think Bobby, you need to consider that the pair buried at Woronora may not be your couple. There are other Dorothy M and William Turnbull at the cemetery:

http://www.woronoracemetery.org.au/finding-loved-ones

The fact that their marriage was registered at Hurstiville doesn't necessarily mean that they remained in the area.

The Ryerson listings and burials could just be a coincidence.

Therefore, Dorothy's parents may not be George Frederick and Mary.

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