Frederick Adolphus Harper

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Frederick married Jessie Brown June 21st 1872 Knox Church Dunedin in 1878 he renewed his license at the Buckeye Hotel in Outram They had 2 children I know of Ellen Florence Harper and Thomas Poole Harper trying to find more info on Frederick
Thanks 

[Beg Clonrode...]

Hello...

If you've not seen it, here is his probate file...

http://tinyurl.com/yb2w38mh

Not that informative from a family history point of view.

Regards
Beg

[AMBLY]

Just collecting data:

DEATH INDEX:
Frederick Adolphus HARPER d 1886 age 57 (b abt 1829*), registered in Taieri, Otago, Sep Qtr 1886.
Frederick Adolphus HARPER d 1930 age 57 (b abt 1873)

*Other records, cemetery, gazette, say  Frederick died 20 Nov 1885 at his Outram Hotel, age 51, so born about 1834.

BURIAL 1885: Buried 23 Nov  at West Taieri Cemetery,
Frederick A HARPER age 51 years. Died 23* Nov 1885 (sic).
Block 24. Plot 17

http://www.dunedin.govt.nz/facilities/cemeteries/cemeteries_search

BURIAL 1930:  Buried 2 May at Andersons Bay Cemetery.
Frederick Adolphus HARPER age 57, Labourer, Native of Outram, died 2* May 1930 (*sic).
Last address: 20 Bridgeman St, Dunedin.
Block 112. Plot 158

ESTATE 1885:
The New Zealand Gazette, 1860-1894
Frederick Adolphus HARPER, died 20 November 1885, of Outram.
Placed under the charge  of the Public Trustee : Value of Estate under £2100

CEMETERY RECORDS:
Frederick A HARPER buried 23 Nov 1885, Plot 17, Block 24
Died 20 Nov 1885 age 51. Grave site is bare.  From newspaper: Frederick Adolphus HARPER, hotel keeper of Outram died 20 Nov at his residence, Outram Hotel.

http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT19120408.2.13
Jessie HARPER, died 6 Apr 1912, age 78 years.  Not recorded in West Taieri Cemetery index or on headstone.
Widow. Died at residence of son on law JJ Louden of 730 King street, of Lairg, Sutherlandshire, relict of F A HARPER of Outram. Funeral 9 April 1912. West Taieri Cemetery.  Gaelic Society members to attend.

BIRTHS: to parents Frederick Adolphus & Jessie
1873: Ellen HARPER (parents Frederick  & Jessie)
1875: Mary Ann HARPER  (parents Frederick Adolphus & Jessie)
1878: Thomas Poole HARPER (parents Frederick Adolphus & Jessie)

Cannot find a birth index for a Frederick Adolphus HARPER in or around 1872/73 - or under BROWN (mms) 

MARRIAGES in Knox Church (maybe some of the others are related):
1861: John HARPER, full age, to TAYLOR on 14 Oct
1872: Frederick Adolphus HARPER full age. To BROWN on 21 Jun.
1875: Alexander HARPER full age, to MALONEY on 5 Apr..
1898: George Albert HARPER age  43y, to WING on 27 Apr.

MARRIAGE Index: daughter?
1895: Mary Ann HARPER to William Robinson RACE

MARRIAGE 1919: son?
Frederick Adolphus HARPER to Marion Christie BAIN

WW1 NZ Army Reserves, 1st Division: son?
Frederick Adolphus HARPER, Driver, of James Jeffs Stables, King Street, Dunedin

Cheers
AMBLY

[AMBLY]

Possible trail - to be proved or disproved!

Parents: John HARPER and Elizabeth

A Batch lot of Baptisms in 1840, Lymptone, Devon.
All on 17 March 1740.
Frederick Adolphus HARPER
Julia Augusta HARPER
Allen Augustus HARPER

On 4 Jan 1835: William Henry HARPER
On 5 March 1824: Harriet Charlotte HARPER

1841 CENSUS: Devonshire Place, St Sidwell, Exeter, Devon
Elizabeth HARPER 40, Widow, Ind - N
Ellen "   20 - N
Louisa "  15 - N
Harriet "  15 - Y
Julia "  15-Y
Allen " 11 - Y
Frederick "  9 - Y
Elizabeth HARPER 13 - FS  - Y
Harriet HARPER 50,  Visitor Ind - N
Mary ",  35 - N
Sophia ", 30, N

The way this census is laid out, is 3 separate 'family' groups:
   1) Elizabeth the widow and her 6 children.
   2) Elizabeth the F.S., probably a niece
   3) Harriet the visitor and her 2 adult daughters (or D-inlaw)

1851 CENSUS: 6 Devonshire Place, St Sidwell, Exeter, Devon
HO107  Piece 1868 / Folio 218 / Pg11
Head: Elizabeth HARPER 59, widow, Fund Holder, b London, Middlesex
Dau: Harriet HARPER 26, unm, b Lympstone, Devon
Visitor: Eliza BIRMINGHAM 11, b Broadclist, Devon
Servant: Susan CLARK 15, b Broadclist Devon

This looks like the son Allen of John & Elizabeth:
MARRIAGE 1858:  Allen Augustus HARPER, son of John HARPER
Married in Adelaide, Australia 1858, to Mary Ann Strickland (dau of Richard).

DEATH 1867 - PROBATE UK:
Allen Augustus HARPER, late of Port Louis,  Island of Mauritius, gentleman.
Died 2 Aug 1867at Port Louis. Administration granted 2 Jul 1867 to Frederick Row, Peterborough, Northampton, the attorney of Mary Ann HARPER , widow, relict, of Melbourne, Victoria (Australia)

He was a Master Mariner.

Keeping looking .....

Cheers
AMBLY

[Jamjar]

Allen Augustus in Victoria, Aus, Chief officer of the Wyvern, 3rd column: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article4804632

I cannot see this birth on BDM, however, there is this one:

Reg. year1855 Reg. no1151 HARPER John Allan Allan and Mary Anne (Mclean)   

Then:

Reg. year1859 Reg. no17108 HARPER Lizzie Ellen Allen Augustus   and Mary Ann (Strickland)   

Reg. year1861 Reg. no18112 HARPER Emeline Marian Allen Augustus and Mary Ann (Strickland)   


Marriage:

Reg. year1887 Reg. no2160 HARPER Emmeline Marian to ROW Edward Mawly   

Reg. year1899 Reg. no4419 HARPER Lizzie Ellen to BRADFORD Wm Arth   

Death:

Reg. year1925 Reg. no11799 BRADFORD Lizzie parents HARPER Allan Gustavous and Marian (Stickland)   

Reg. year1929 Reg. no6850 ROWE Emmeline Marion parents HARPER Allen and Mary Ann (Strickland)   

Jamjar

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Thanks for that

[minniehaha]

A snippet about the estate of Frederick Adolphus Harper [1885]

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT18851219.2.2.6?query=frederick%20adolphus%20harper


Minniehaha.

[AMBLY]

Jessie was probably, Johanna:

https://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/newspapers/ODT18860608.2.33
Johanna HARPER, licensee renewal Outram Hotel 1886

Let us know Kiwikate, if this is all helping any?   Does anything so far ring any bells, with other information however small, that  you might have about Frederick Adolphus HARPER?

He was reasonably 'old' when he married Jessie - so he may have been married before.

Cheers
AMBLY

[kiwikate]

great ty all info is helpful