Help needed for parents occupations and poss transcription error?

[MonicaL]

What is your line of research of this and what is it you are trying to find/corfirm?

The name is unusual for sure.

Monica

[captainjackdi]

What is your line of research of this and what is it you are trying to find/corfirm?

The name is unusual for sure.

Monica

Jane Marie Laken born Aug 1895, parents shown as William Laken & Ellen on 1901 census. Mothers maiden name shown as Laudrow on gro site, but then other siblings some shown as Landro and a couple as Andrews, so looks like problems with the name spelling definitely. But on 1911 census says been married for 30 years so cldnt be a second marriage. Can only find this one marriage for William Henry Laken to an Helen or Ellen. I am wanting to try confirm it is this one so I can carry on tracing back further by confirming name/occupation.

[MonicaL]

I think you are on the right track here for both William and Ellen.

The 1901 entry you have in Bromley confirm what shows earlier too:

William Laken 40 b. Limehouse
Ellen Laken 36 b. Poplar
William Laken 19
Maud Laken 15
Ellen Laken 12
Rose Laken 9
Jane Laken 5

On the Landro side you have:

1861 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q2ML-5GSV  Family with first wife Jane, Ellen's mother.

1866 Jane Landro died aged 42 in 3rd Qrt Poplar ref 1c/844

1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRJZ-F33 John Landro Snr may not have remarried until possibly 1877? Marriage showing that year between a John Landro and an Eliza Elmes in Stepney (other possible name Harriet Aubury)

1880 marriage that you have for William Henry and Ellen

1891 marriage of John Jnr with William as witness?

1902 possile death of Eliza Landro (showing as Landrow) in Poplar


Not sure on the death details for Ellen's father John. Likely down to how name has been indexed.

Monica

[MonicaL]

You can see how the surname Landro is problamatic on transcriptions and indexes and how phonetically it will have many variants in spelling.

Jane Plucknett and John Landrew married 1848 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJWL-NQK

Monica

[MonicaL]

Ellen Laken looks to also have acted as witness to her sister Ann's marriage in 1888. Ann's surname showing as Landres:

[captainjackdi]

I think you are on the right track here for both William and Ellen.


1871 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRJZ-F33 John Landro Snr may not have remarried until possibly 1877? Marriage showing that year between a John Landro and an Eliza Elmes in Stepney (other possible name Harriet Aubury)

1880 marriage that you have for William Henry and Ellen

1891 marriage of John Jnr with William as witness?

1902 possile death of Eliza Landro (showing as Landrow) in Poplar


Not sure on the death details for Ellen's father John. Likely down to how name has been indexed.

Monica

Apologies for coming back on this but have now found the marriage certificate for John & Eliza Elmes as per your comment and now confused as Eliza's father's name looks like William Plucknett which  is the same name as John Landro senior's first wife Jane Plucknett, but i cannot find a marriage for an Eliza marrying someone called Elmes (as shown as widow on certificate) and there is an Eliza Elmes living with the Plucknett (plucknatt) family in St George on 1841 census. IS this possible he married sisters?

[MonicaL]

Certainly looks possible doesn't it. Like you, haven't yet been able to find a possible marriage for Elizabeth Plucknett to Elmes.

John Landro's father's occupation looks like carpenter...taking us back to the begining of your thread!

Maybe trying to find Eliza Elmes/Plucknett in 1851/1861 would help further.

Monica

[MonicaL]

There is an online tree which gives Jane Plucknett's parents as William and Ann, with some of the family originating from the Bristol, Somerset area. Could this be an entry for a christening for Eliza?

Eliza Plucknett
Christening Date 12 Aug 1821
Christening Place Bedminster, Somerset, England
Parents William Plucknett and Ann

The family in 1851 in Shadwell/Stepney (I am sure you have all this but for background here) https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG5B-BRV

Odd about the 1841 census https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQJQ-6LX  Could indicate that mother Ann (Pollard?) may have been married before? But Eliza gave William Plucknett as her father when marrying John Landro in 1877 and passed her self off as his wife from at least 1871. Also, there is that record above with a possible christening in 1821.

Monica

[Bookbox]

John Landro's father's occupation looks like carpenter.

I suspect it is Labourer. (There is some overflow from the final r of Widower in the previous column.)