Robert Davies born 1854

[dawnkaren]

Sorry, but saying "1854 ish" is vague

Marriage:
December qtr 1888
West Derby Registration District     vol 8b, page 607

Davies, Robert
Williams, Annie


On the 1901 census, Robert (Senior) is aged 47 - that puts his birth around 1854.
On the 1891 census, Robert's age is shown as 40 - putting his birth around 1851?

1891 census is Class: RG12; Piece: 2971; Folio: 7; Page: 7

(Snap! Dundee - but now I've typed it I am going to post it!)

Was Robert married before?
37 is rather old for a first marriage

I had thought that too esp when you consider he is 14 yrs older than his wife,  I do think it would be helpful if we could have his death date and place tho, and try and find his probate might give3 a few names on that or the OP getting the full will and again that is likely to have more info in it

[ADR68]

Sorry, but saying "1854 ish" is vague

Marriage:
December qtr 1888
West Derby Registration District     vol 8b, page 607

Davies, Robert
Williams, Annie


On the 1901 census, Robert (Senior) is aged 47 - that puts his birth around 1854.
On the 1891 census, Robert's age is shown as 40 - putting his birth around 1851?

1891 census is Class: RG12; Piece: 2971; Folio: 7; Page: 7

(Snap! Dundee - but now I've typed it I am going to post it!)

Was Robert married before?
37 is rather old for a first marriage

Sorry I don't know if he was married before .

Regards
Allan

[KGarrad]

It will say on his marriage certificate.

[dawnkaren]

it says bachelor, but as we have found out with other marriages in the past that means nothing, even the bit about Edward being deceased means nothing really, Edward could have been alive and they had fallen out and if his new wife didn't know about his previous marriage then he could have just said batchelor

[ADR68]

it says bachelor, but as we have found out with other marriages in the past that means nothing, even the bit about Edward being deceased means nothing really, Edward could have been alive and they had fallen out and if his new wife didn't know about his previous marriage then he could have just said batchelor

Very true, I just at the deaths there are loads of them in West Derby Registration between 1901 -1920, as a matter of Interest I didn't marry till I was 36 it must run in the family lol.

[Dundee]

1881 he might be boarding in Everton, Lancs, born c 1851 Hanfair, Denbighshire, Occp Mariner

Boarding with the same WILLIAMS family in 1881 and 1871:

1881
Class: RG11; Piece: 3661; Folio: 35; Page: 12

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-D4CN

1871
Class: RG10; Piece: 3815; Folio: 35; Page: 15 and 16

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGT-TW1

Possible brother John there in 1871.

Debra 

[ADR68]

1881 he might be boarding in Everton, Lancs, born c 1851 Hanfair, Denbighshire, Occp Mariner

Boarding with the same WILLIAMS family in 1881 and 1871:

1881
Class: RG11; Piece: 3661; Folio: 35; Page: 12

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27L-D4CN

1871
Class: RG10; Piece: 3815; Folio: 35; Page: 15 and 16

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KZGT-TW1

Possible brother John there in 1871.

Debra 

Hi Debra that's great info, thanks.

Allan

[dawnkaren]

right you are going to have to go back thr all your certificates to try and figure out when his death took place

have you found him on any crew lists yet?

[ADR68]

right you are going to have to go back thr all your certificates to try and figure out when his death took place

have you found him on any crew lists yet?

That is too big a job there is about of them far to many his birth cert may be easier, in 1871 he lived with the William family in Everton he is aged 20 so his birth could be 1850 at Hanfair.