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Offline jonsops

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Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« on: Monday 21 August 17 06:39 BST (UK) »
In 2008 member 'MIS' posted "Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?".
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=336723.0
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Is anyone living near there able to pick this one up?
My GG Grandfather lived on Sheriff Hill in the 1841 Census.
I would like to find what the actual address was and if the house is still there.
The Census Page is at http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=4901729
Name: James Soppet age 30. Also his wife Rebecca and 5 children.

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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #1 on: Monday 21 August 17 08:06 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat! ;D

Your (2nd) link is only useful to those with an Ancestry subscription?
So, I have added a link to FamilySearch (which is free!):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-N2L
Reference is HO107; Piece: 296; Folio: 15; Page 25

If you go to the 1st page, there should be a description of the enumeration district.
Bearing that in mind, it might be possible to track the street name?

But addresses were simply not important in 1841 :-\
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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #2 on: Monday 21 August 17 08:09 BST (UK) »
This map may help you to locate the area.  From the enumerator's walk, Team Waggon Way is mentioned, and the map shows Team Colliery with a railway line close by.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#

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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #3 on: Monday 21 August 17 08:23 BST (UK) »
Welcome to RootsChat
This is the area in 1857 http://maps.nls.uk/view/102341479#zoom=5&lat=7166&lon=1885&layers=BT

Street numbering did not become formalised in towns until the 1850s at the earliest. Census enumerators were given very clear instructions with regard to the provision of address data. In 1841 it was only necessary to give the name, if any, of the house, part of the town, village or hamlet in which it stood.
This map shows the present aerial view
http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#zoom=16&lat=54.9402&lon=-1.5870&layers=171&right=BingHyb
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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #4 on: Monday 21 August 17 10:04 BST (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Monday 21 August 17 08:09 BST (UK)
This map may help you to locate the area.  From the enumerator's walk, Team Waggon Way is mentioned, and the map shows Team Colliery with a railway line close by.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#

Thanks BumbleB, that is a very handy link  :)

Quote from: jonsops on Monday 21 August 17 06:39 BST (UK)
In 2008 member 'MIS' posted "Gateshead Fell 1800's, 1900s. Can I help anyone?".
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=336723.0
This forum was closed by moderator 'sillgen' in May 2012.

Is anyone living near there able to pick this one up?
My GG Grandfather lived on Sheriff Hill in the 1841 Census.
I would like to find what the actual address was and if the house is still there.
The Census Page is at http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?db=uki1841&indiv=try&h=4901729
Name: James Soppet age 30. Also his wife Rebecca and 5 children.

Hi jonsops,

I live a couple of miles away, if you can get an address from a later Census, I can take a look for you.

A number of my ancestors lived (and died) in Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill, and I was born at the Hospital across the road  :)

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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #5 on: Monday 21 August 17 11:16 BST (UK) »
Was my reply #3 of any interest  ???

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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #6 on: Monday 21 August 17 11:31 BST (UK) »
Quote from: stanmapstone on Monday 21 August 17 11:16 BST (UK)
Was my reply #3 of any interest  ???

Stan

Hi Stan,

That map is brilliant! Thank you.

The map has Wrekenton on, which is particularly close to my heart, as my GG Grandfather moved there from Galway, Ireland.

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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #7 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 01:10 BST (UK) »
Quote from: KGarrad on Monday 21 August 17 08:06 BST (UK)
Welcome to RootsChat! ;D

Your (2nd) link is only useful to those with an Ancestry subscription?
So, I have added a link to FamilySearch (which is free!):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQBC-N2L
Reference is HO107; Piece: 296; Folio: 15; Page 25

If you go to the 1st page, there should be a description of the enumeration district.
Bearing that in mind, it might be possible to track the street name?

But addresses were simply not important in 1841 :-\

Thank you, K Garrad.
Yes, that is the correct transcript.
I have looked  at page one but cannot make it fit with today's map.
Please see my esponse to other posters below your reply.
Regards, John

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Re: Gateshead Fell & Sheriff Hill
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 22 August 17 01:27 BST (UK) »
Quote from: BumbleB on Monday 21 August 17 08:09 BST (UK)
This map may help you to locate the area.  From the enumerator's walk, Team Waggon Way is mentioned, and the map shows Team Colliery with a railway line close by.

http://maps.nls.uk/geo/explore/side-by-side/#

Thank you, BumbleB.
The map is fantastic.
I have only a vague idea of the area as I have only been through it twice.
I'm from New Zealand, but my wife is from Wingate, Co Durham.
Coincidence is a funny thing. We met in Hong Kong. Then I find that my family originated from quite near to hers.
Regards, John
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