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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #18 on: Sunday 27 August 17 20:45 BST (UK) »
If anyone could help me decipher the parent names on my 3x great grandparents marriage record and the details on the death certificate of George Marshall I would be very grateful

Any chance of larger images, please - more the size of the first two you attached? Or maybe just crops of the relevant bits (but also larger). You can attach images up to 500KB in size.

I hope they come out better this time, sorry about that!
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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #19 on: Sunday 27 August 17 21:38 BST (UK) »
Jurgies Mekszraites, Sugar house labourer
Agatho Pampalute
both signed with a cross, witnessed by Agnes and Charles Burows

Josef Mekszraites, Farmer
Margaret Mekszraites m.s. Separitis (?)

Josef Pampalute, Farmer
Mary Pampalute m.s. Patronute (?)

M.J.Carroll

Jurgies Pampalute
Mary Zelanack
both witnesses signed with a cross, witnessed as before
GRAY - Inveresk; Lanarkshire
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POZZI - Elgin; Lancashire
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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #20 on: Monday 28 August 17 11:42 BST (UK) »
I agree with Isabel on the marriage entry. My take on the death:

George Marshall (formerly Jurgis Meksraites)
Coal Miner - Hewer (retired)
Widower of Agato Pompalutes)

1956 - September twenty-seventh
7h 0m A.m.
Victoria Infirmary, (Usual residence:- 40 Wolseley Street,) Glasgow

M - 75 years

Juszas Meksraites, Farmer (Deceased)
Magdalena Meksraites M.S. Pampalaite (Deceased)

Pulmonary Tuberculosis
As cert. by Alexander J Marshall, M.B. Ch.B.

William Marshall - Son
166 Templeland Road, Glasgow

1956 September 28th at Glasgow
Wm MacKay Assistant Registrar
D.J.A. Regr.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #21 on: Monday 28 August 17 13:22 BST (UK) »
I agree with Isabel on the marriage entry. My take on the death:

George Marshall (formerly Jurgis Meksraites)
Coal Miner - Hewer (retired)
Widower of Agato Pompalutes)

1956 - September twenty-seventh
7h 0m A.m.
Victoria Infirmary, (Usual residence:- 40 Wolseley Street,) Glasgow

M - 75 years

Juszas Meksraites, Farmer (Deceased)
Magdalena Meksraites M.S. Pampalaite (Deceased)

Pulmonary Tuberculosis
As cert. by Alexander J Marshall, M.B. Ch.B.

William Marshall - Son
166 Templeland Road, Glasgow

1956 September 28th at Glasgow
Wm MacKay Assistant Registrar
D.J.A. Regr.

Thank you so much 😀 I did stare cross eyed at the cause of death for a while this morning and did eventually come up with pulmonary tuberculosis so I'm quite proud I got that right!

I found this record (the last entry) and have been trying to work out if they could be related to my tree but I can't think how they would fit in, can anyone see a link? https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/record-results?search_type=People&surname=&forename=Juszas&forename_so=exact&from_year=&to_year=&surname_so=exact&record_type=stat_marriages They seem to have the same first names but the surnames are totally different.
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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #22 on: Monday 28 August 17 13:58 BST (UK) »
If they were standard Lithuanian forenames you'd expect to find a few in the index. However, do you know if Jurgis/George's parents ever came to Scotland?

Given that he married in 1904, you should be able to find him in the 1911 census, if not 1901 as well, and this should give his place of birth. The marriage and death records are consistent in giving his birth as around 1881, so he may not be too hard to find. If you can establish where he was born and/or at what age he came to Scotland, you may be better able to judge what happened to his parents.
Researching among others:
Bartle, Bilton, Bingley, Campbell, Craven, Emmott, Harcourt, Hirst, Kellet(t), Kennedy,
Meaburn, Mennile/Meynell, Metcalf(e), Palliser, Robinson, Rutter, Shipley, Stow, Wilkinson

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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #23 on: Monday 28 August 17 14:40 BST (UK) »
I've added Yurgies (his marriage) to the Sugar Refiners database at  www.mawer.clara.net/sugarmmey.html  .
I've not yet found anything more on him in the industry, and if I've spotted the correct person, he's a coal hewer in the next census.

As no employee lists appear to have survived from the sugar industry in Greenock we can only guess at where he might have worked.
Charles St is close to both Sugarhouse Lane and Princes St where there were refineries in 1904 - www.mawer.clara.net/loc-greenock.html .
You could also hope that he worked a little further away at the Glebe refinery in Ker St ... because the building is still standing - http://thegreenockian.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/greenocks-flat-iron-building.html
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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #24 on: Monday 28 August 17 15:05 BST (UK) »
I've added Yurgies (his marriage) to the Sugar Refiners database at  www.mawer.clara.net/sugarmmey.html  .
I've not yet found anything more on him in the industry, and if I've spotted the correct person, he's a coal hewer in the next census.

As no employee lists appear to have survived from the sugar industry in Greenock we can only guess at where he might have worked.
Charles St is close to both Sugarhouse Lane and Princes St where there were refineries in 1904 - www.mawer.clara.net/loc-greenock.html .
You could also hope that he worked a little further away at the Glebe refinery in Ker St ... because the building is still standing - http://thegreenockian.blogspot.co.uk/2014/03/greenocks-flat-iron-building.html

Thank you 😊
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Fadian, English, Vesey, Gielty, Gallagher, Masterson (Achill, Co Mayo.)

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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #25 on: Monday 18 September 17 15:12 BST (UK) »
Hi, thank you all so much for the help you have given me so far! I have another question. I've hit a brick wall again trying to find any information about my gtgt grandfather mekszraites (Marshall) I was playing around on the SP website and I found this record
SurnamePAMPALIS
ForenameMAGDALENE
Age at death67
Year1938
Ref644/6 834
RD NameTownhead
Does anyone think this could be the same as the name of my gtgtgt grandmother named on the death certificate?
Magdalena Meksraites M.S. Pampalaite (Deceased)

I would be really grateful for any help 😀
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Mekzsraites (Russia/ Lithuania, changed to Marshall when immigrants to Scotland)
Stevenson (Ireland / Scotland)
Fadian, English, Vesey, Gielty, Gallagher, Masterson (Achill, Co Mayo.)

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Re: Can anyone help me decipher some names?
« Reply #26 on: Monday 18 September 17 15:25 BST (UK) »
You can search by forename on SP - if you search "Magdalene" deaths in Townhead in 1938 it shows that the lady at the reference 644/6 834 had three surnames during her life namely Chernouski, Petrollis and Pampalis.

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