Researching my Family Purcell, Alexander came out from Jamaica born 1824

[maddys52]

Sydney Monitor 15 Jan 1838 p3
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/32158672?

On Saturday, the 13th instant, by Special License, at St. Mary's Church, by the Rev. Mr. M'Encroe,
Mr. John SPRING, of Sydney, to Miss Mary HAYES, eldest daughter of the late Mr. W. HAYES, of News
market, Ireland.

Not to hand just now, but........I think the death record for Elizabeth PURCELL names mother as Catherine HAYES?

Just noting that there is a marriage registration for John SPRING to Mary HAYES in 1833 at St Mary's, Sydney. (In fact 2 references: 403/1833 V1833403 126 and 450/1833 V1833450 90) I'm wondering why the 5 year difference, unless it's simply a mistranscription on the NSW BDM index?

[maddys52]

Who are the Mr and Mrs F SPRING cousins of Alexander Jnr?

http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article26300241

Jamjar

WOW im over whelmed with all the new research from everyone today, I have no idea who F spring is, but im trying to find out. thankyou

I think Jamjar worked this out in reply #19 

[pepewinsome]

Hi there,

Did Alexander, born Jamaica, happen to die in Victoria?  If so, could this be his death registration?  If so, what information is provided on that document re his possible marriages to Sarah Ada and to Elizabeth?   Would you consider the informant would have been able to provide reliable information?
1885 PURCELL Alexander  Reg. no 9886

http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/191200961 The Age 9 July 1885

PURCELL.—On the 8th July, at 54 Heath-street, Port Melbourne, after a long and painful illness, Alexander Purcell, the dearly beloved husband of Elizabeth Purcell, ship steward, aged 54 years

Is this Elizabeth's death?  What information is given on that document about her marriage and her children?
1888 PURCELL Elizabeth  Spouse's family name Spring Reg. no 7250

JM

Aleanders death cert
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AplGDzaLCsg1qFU0EfYEQQBXm8hE

[pepewinsome]

Alexanders Death Certh
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AplGDzaLCsg1qFU0EfYEQQBXm8hE
and marriage to Sarah
https://1drv.ms/b/s!AplGDzaLCsg1qFS2L0o1HPQr4VSt

thanks everyone

There is also this, and Application for Convicts to marry 1835, where some have said this is Mary Hayes, or Catherine Mary Hayes, Cartherine mc Carthy, apparently went under many alias, could this also be Mary Newall as stated on sarahs Wedding cert to Alexander? in 1861?

[pepewinsome]

Seems we can get all info on a brother and a sister, even parents but still no birth cert for a Sarah or death cert, leading me back to thinking Sarah and Eliz are the same person. But if thats so Elizabeth would have been way to young to marry Alexander. If the Elizabeth S born NSW 1849 in fact her, she does state as both the girls have on documents born in NSW.

[pepewinsome]

Hi Pepewinsome and welcome to rootsChat

Do you know where in NSW your Purcell family lived?
Back in the 1940s/50s there were Purcells at Lake Cargelligo, that I know of.
Plus there may have been some of that name at Hill End, though if he was a mariner then I guess that cuts them out?

Dawn M

I know they lived Emerald Hill Victoira, and also Collingwood Melbourne

[wivenhoe]

Can you please identify which BDM certificates you have.

The death certificate, 1885 Victoria, for Alexander PURCELL has information given by his son, Alexander.  Son Alexander is naming his father's wife, and his father's children.  Son Alexander might not be naming his own mother. The marriage certificate for Alexander PURCELL would be useful to see how he names his own mother. 

Do you have this certificate -

BDM WA marriage
123 / 1899 PURCELL  Alexander John  m.   BURDAK  Helena Olivia Orelia  @  Coolgardie   

[Jamjar]

What is the occupation of Sarah's father on the marriage certificate? I have enlarged it, but still have no idea what it says.

Jamjar

[majm]

NSW BDM has Early church records of the marriage of William HIPWOOD and Mary A HAYES in 1835, Volume 19, line 1190.  Church of England marriage.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XTCT-FXV

Possibly his burial in 1859
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLNT-4X3
NSW BDM has the following death indexed
HIPWOOD  William, #759/1859 aged 56 years, died Sydney, registered Sydney.
Trove has
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/13026542 SMH 20 June 1859. 

Are those others saying Sarah Ada's dad was actually William HIPWOOD? 

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There is also this, and Application for Convicts to marry 1835, where some have said this is Mary Hayes, or Catherine Mary Hayes, Cartherine mc Carthy, apparently went under many alias, could this also be Mary Newall as stated on sarahs Wedding cert to Alexander? in 1861?

Female Convict records often found to contain several surnames ... eg their maiden name, the name they land with, the name they become known by (through informal or formal marriage) etc. 

RED POST
I had read Sarah's dad's occupation as perhaps a note from the clergy ... I read it as 'Reputed'.  I may well be wrong.   

JM