derbyshire records on ancestry

[Newfloridian]

I am currently studying baptismal records from the newly added Derbyshire lists on Ancestry. My particular interest has always been South Normanton which until now has been extremely patchy with what has been available on line. This place also had a reputation for high illegitimacy rates which made tracing family lines tortuous if not impossible.

Image my surprise and delight when I found many records in the form of:

June 16th 1814: Hannah, illegitimate daughter of Ann and Isaac: Jephson Ball

I (and several others on this forum) had come to this conclusion about Hannah but I don't think I've seen both parties named in this fashion in a Parish Record before

Alan

[robert g shaw]

I actually enjoyed having to browse the records to find what I wanted. I would certainly rather do that from time to time than not be able to afford to access records at all.

you mean getting onto a parish record then manually browsing to discover records that are not online?

ive done that but to no avail , i simply cannot find records for births, and marriages, that i know happened.

not only can i not locate a marriage for thomas hill and h/esther, despit 15 years of producing children in brailsford and mugginton , theres no marriage for john hill, (born 1700) nor a son samuel hill, samuel hill is mentioned in 2 wills by his uncles - 'samuel son of brother john' which suggests john married and fathered at least 1 child.

of course these marriages could have taken place elsewhere , but the only 'thomas and h/esther' i can find is in coventry 7 years before they started having children.

[Youngy1981]

Fantastic. Thanks for the update

[T4Tim]

Edit:
Never mind folks.
The lovely CaroleW got all sorted out.

Thank you.

[T4Tim]

One last question though, for future digging:
My mothers given name has four variations; Marrianne, Marianne, Mariame and Marion making it difficult to pin down at times. I noticed other names changed from one census to the next.

What is the most reliable source for authenticity?

[Newfloridian]

As far as your Mum is concerned, if still available, ask her!

However, there is no one source which can be considered authentic. It's not just given names which change from census to census - but surnames do too. The most extreme I have from Derbyshire is Gaskin / Gascoynge (and several other minor variants). Many individuals in Victorian censuses were illietrate. So, it would depend on what the enumerator or the registrar thought he heard and the person not being able to read so couldn't correct a mistake. If you then add in regional accents the situation becomes magnitudes worse. On Tyneside, we had the appearance of a new surname presumably from a Geordie registrar not understanding fully the accent of broad Devonian fisherman.

For my own ease of record keeping and database management, I record them all as one standard form of name (Gaskin in the above example), and note variations in the notes section for each individual

Alan 

[T4Tim]

Thanks Alan.
Mum's not hearing so well through the dirt.
I would have thought that since 1907, when she was born and registered, there would be a little more consistency but I understand what you say.

[ThrelfallYorky]

Don't forget "Mary Ann".

[Dowdy]

I have been trying to have a look on Parish Registers on Ancestry..but the page kicks me out saying it is no longer available..
Anyone else have the same problem?
Forgive me if it sounds like a stupid question!!
Dowdy