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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 26 October 17 18:56 BST (UK) »
You could also get hold of Elizabeth Shaw's death registration - in Scotland, death registrations also include the father's name and mother's maiden name, if these were known to whoever registered the death. They are less reliable as a source of parents' names, as deaths are more likely to be registered by individuals who aren't family members, or who are distant family members. Marriage records are more reliable, as this information would have been given to the registrar by the bride and groom themselves.

Quoting myself... sheesh...  ::)

I've just realised that Elizabeth Rodie (nee Shaw) died in England - so this isn't going to be much help...

Ruth

Not a worry - thank you! You have been an amazing help so far.

I am trying to make sure this is concrete so I can continue researching the Susan McPherson line.

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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #55 on: Sunday 29 October 17 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Also, Susan M is my grandmother. The M stands for McPherson, so her full name is Susan McPherson Wilson, but she married into the Harrison family (they later moved to America).

I don't want to send you down another rabbit hole but...

There is a James Wilson, born 1888, Kirkdale, Lancashire to Thomas Wilson, dock labourer (born Monaghan, Ireland) and Elizabeth Wylie Rodie (born Wigtonshire, Scotland). This couple were married in Liverpool in 1884. The reason I think this may be your James Wilson, is that in 1891 and 1901 he is in Kirkdale with his parents, and an elder sister named Susan McPherson Wilson.

I believe this may be the same James Wilson who is in Devonport as an Able Seaman with the navy in 1911, and who Isobel found in the 1939 register with wife Margaret - and the same James Wilson who died in Knowsley in 1957.

Ruth

Hi again, Ruth! Quick followup if you dont mind... where did you find that Thomas Wilson and Elizabeth Rodie were married in 1884? I cant seem to find the record.

Thank you!

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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #56 on: Sunday 29 October 17 20:43 GMT (UK) »
Have a look on FreeCen. As Ruth mentioned, it shows in 1884 in Liverpool 3rd Qrt refs 8b/332.

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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #57 on: Sunday 29 October 17 20:57 GMT (UK) »
Have a look on FreeCen. As Ruth mentioned, it shows in 1884 in Liverpool 3rd Qrt refs 8b/332.

Monica

Hi there,

Unless I'm mistaken, FreeCEN is only for censues, not marriage records?


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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #58 on: Sunday 29 October 17 21:01 GMT (UK) »
Sunday night tired me! FreeBMD www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl is the correct site.

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« Reply #59 on: Sunday 29 October 17 21:07 GMT (UK) »
Sunday night tired me! FreeBMD www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl is the correct site.

Monica

Hey Monica, no problem, thanks for the help! My issue now is that FreeBMD doesnt tell me who he was married to, so I don't know how to confirm it?

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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #60 on: Sunday 29 October 17 21:13 GMT (UK) »
If you click on the page number, you will get the names of the 4 people on that page, so it narrows down the search to just 2 possible spouses. In this case you know the bride's name, so clicking on the page number will confirm it.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #61 on: Sunday 29 October 17 21:19 GMT (UK) »

Hi

"GRO has SMW 1885 with Mother's MN as Rodie"


Apologies . . . . .
That'll be SusanMcPhersonWilson with Mother's maidenname as Rodie.

Ray

No it doesn't, but your start to look for additonal material to support the names or order the cert to confirm the details.

The 1901 census in Everton below:

Thomas Wilson 39 dock labourer b. Belford Ireland
Elizabeth W Wilson 33 b. Scotland
Susan Mc Pherson Wilson 15
James Wilson 12
Annie Wilson 9
Sarah A Wilson 4
Agnes Wilson 1

Someone following the line of Sarah Ann has posted this info online http://fraserhamilton.org.uk/f3370.htm

This info all needs to be verified but gives something to work with for now.

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Re: Help with a family member? I'm entirely stuck. Lanark/Wigtown
« Reply #62 on: Sunday 29 October 17 21:29 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: MonicaL link=topic=781245.msg6359823#msg6359823
The 1901 census in Everton below:
Thomas Wilson 39 dock labourer b. Belford Ireland
That's a transcription error. I read the original as Belfast.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.