John Turner 1891 Census no trace

[JenB]

Damn,  wish I had realised they had the records

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Chopwell, St John the Evangelist
x 1900-1970
m 1902-1974
bs 1913-1973
b 1900-1942

[DavyTee68]

Now then.....these Turners are a right lot!

Northern Echo 19th August 1890
(this follows a report of an assault by another man upon his wife)
........John Turner, a Blacksmith, also living in Hamsterley Colliery, was also accused of committing a similar assault upon his wife, Mary Jane Turner, on August 2nd. Complainant was in a weak and exhausted condition from her husband's ill-usage. Her voice was scarcely above a whisper. The Bench meted out to the defendant (who had absconded), a similar punishment*, granted a separation, and ordered him to pay 6s weekly towards his wife's maintenance.

* which appears to have been 3 months hard labour, then bound over to keep the peace for six months.

So - it looks like they were separated in 1890. This probably accounts for why son William is named head of household in 1891.

Looks like Mary Jane recovered fairly quickly  And John was around fairly quickly as well 

Durham County Advertiser, 19th September 1890.
Mary Jane Taylor of Hamsterley Colliery was charged with threatening to assault Elizabeth Mary Anderson.......Complainant also charged John Turner with using threats against her on the same day, 5th September. The bench.......considered that the cases were trivial and should not have been brought to court. Mary Jane Turner, one of the defendants in the previous case charged Benjamin Roberts, as miner of Hamsterley Colliery, with threatening to kill her on 6th September.....the defendant was bound over to keep the peace.....A charge of  assault brought by the last defendant, Benjamin Roberts, against Wm. Turner, a brother of the complainant in the foregoing case, was dismissed.

I think I've followed the wrong family no way am I related to this lot. I'm dead placid 

[DavyTee68]

Thanks for both of the above Jen. They were totally mad the Turner family 

[JenB]

Thanks for both of the above Jen. They were totally mad the Turner family 

They certainly seems to have had a bit of a reign of terror in Hamsterley Colliery 

[DavyTee68]

Thanks for both of the above Jen. They were totally mad the Turner family 

They certainly seems to have had a bit of a reign of terror in Hamsterley Colliery 

It's getting like Peaky Blinders 

[JenB]

Durham County Advertiser, 19th September 1890.
Mary Jane Taylor of Hamsterley Colliery was charged with threatening to assault Elizabeth Mary Anderson......

Apologies, the surname was, of course, Turner, not Taylor. 

[DavyTee68]

Durham County Advertiser, 19th September 1890.
Mary Jane Taylor of Hamsterley Colliery was charged with threatening to assault Elizabeth Mary Anderson......

Apologies, the surname was, of course, Turner, not Taylor. 

I gotcha Jen 

[Jomot]

Looks like Mary Jane recovered fairly quickly  And John was around fairly quickly as well 

Durham County Advertiser, 19th September 1890.
Mary Jane Taylor of Hamsterley Colliery was charged with threatening to assault Elizabeth Mary Anderson.......Complainant also charged John Turner with using threats against her on the same day, 5th September. The bench.......considered that the cases were trivial and should not have been brought to court. Mary Jane Turner, one of the defendants in the previous case charged Benjamin Roberts, a miner of Hamsterley Colliery, with threatening to kill her on 6th September.....the defendant was bound over to keep the peace.....A charge of  assault brought by the last defendant, Benjamin Roberts, against Wm. Turner, a brother of the complainant in the foregoing case, was dismissed.

If Wm Turner was Mary Jane's brother, then isn't this John's daughter rather than his wife?

[JenB]

Looks like Mary Jane recovered fairly quickly  And John was around fairly quickly as well 

Durham County Advertiser, 19th September 1890.
Mary Jane Taylor of Hamsterley Colliery was charged with threatening to assault Elizabeth Mary Anderson.......Complainant also charged John Turner with using threats against her on the same day, 5th September. The bench.......considered that the cases were trivial and should not have been brought to court. Mary Jane Turner, one of the defendants in the previous case charged Benjamin Roberts, a miner of Hamsterley Colliery, with threatening to kill her on 6th September.....the defendant was bound over to keep the peace.....A charge of  assault brought by the last defendant, Benjamin Roberts, against Wm. Turner, a brother of the complainant in the foregoing case, was dismissed.

If Wm Turner was Mary Jane's brother, then isn't this John's daughter rather than his wife?

Yes, you could be right. John and Mary Jane had children called William, John and Mary Jane.
What a family