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Offline mike4301

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« on: Monday 27 November 17 05:21 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I have two ancestors Patrick Carroll and Sara Breen marrying in Tipperary 26th September 1910. However across the Irish sea in Coatbridge, Glasgow on the same day they are being married there? ? . Can anyone shed some light on this?
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Re: ??confused??
« Reply #1 on: Monday 27 November 17 05:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi Mike,

I see on Scotlandspeople that in fact Patrick Caroll and Sarah Breen married as you say in Coatbridge/New Monkland - but checking on Irish Genealogy website, I cannot find the same combination of names - for a marriage..   Did find a Patrick Carroll who married Sarah Treacey on 19th July 1910, in Thurles Tipperary.

What proof do you have of a marriage of your Patrick and Sarah as stated?
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« Reply #2 on: Monday 27 November 17 05:55 GMT (UK) »
Was it by banns?   A marriage takes place in one church (usually the bride's), but Banns are read three times in both the bride's and the groom's home parish
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Re: ??confused??
« Reply #3 on: Monday 27 November 17 09:20 GMT (UK) »
I found the Irish one on ancestry. I tried posting screenshot but it's too big.Drom and Inch is the marraige place and Anfield the residence.  Parents are the same on both marriage details??
Cheers Michael
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Re: ??confused??
« Reply #4 on: Monday 27 November 17 09:23 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Rena on Monday 27 November 17 05:55 GMT (UK)
Was it by banns?   A marriage takes place in one church (usually the bride's), but Banns are read three times in both the bride's and the groom's home parish

Yes, I would guess you may have found a banns record.  I have come across a couple recorded as marrying in a country chapel a week before (apparently) marrying again in the nearby market town - in Northumberland.
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Re: ??confused??
« Reply #5 on: Monday 27 November 17 09:28 GMT (UK) »
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Name:   Patrick Carroll
Gender:   Male
Event Type:   Marriage
Residence Place:   Anfield
Marriage Date:   26 Sep 1910
Marriage Place:   Drom and Inch, Tipperary, Ireland
Parish Variants:   Drom, Inch
Diocese:   Cashel and Emly
Father:   Dennis Carroll
Mother:   Margaret Hynes
Spouse:   Sara Breen
HALL,Lancs,Staffordshire
SHAWCROSS Newton Heath,Gorton, Openshaw
WIGLEY Wirksworh, Lancashire
BRADSHAW Lancashire

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« Reply #6 on: Monday 27 November 17 09:33 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: mike4301 on Monday 27 November 17 09:28 GMT (UK)
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Name:   Patrick Carroll
Gender:   Male
Event Type:   Marriage
Residence Place:   Anfield
Marriage Date:   26 Sep 1910
Marriage Place:   Drom and Inch, Tipperary, Ireland
Parish Variants:   Drom, Inch
Diocese:   Cashel and Emly
Father:   Dennis Carroll
Mother:   Margaret Hynes
Spouse:   Sara Breen
That looks like a church record, what's the name on the record set?
As already said there is no civil cert for a marriage in those names.

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Re: ??confused??
« Reply #7 on: Monday 27 November 17 09:55 GMT (UK) »
Hi Sinann,
What do you mean by the name? It says it's from the Ireland catholic parish register?
Cheers Michael
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SHAWCROSS Newton Heath,Gorton, Openshaw
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« Reply #8 on: Monday 27 November 17 10:01 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: mike4301 on Monday 27 November 17 09:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Sinann,
What do you mean by the name? It says it's from the Ireland catholic parish register?
Cheers Michael

The dates of the parish records?
If this is an RC record, Ancestry shouldn't have it, what it may be is a note on either Patrick or Sara's baptism recording who and when thay married.
https://registers.nli.ie/parishes/0261
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