George NINNIM - WILTSHIRE

[keyboard86]

OK so going on that, in fact you do not know if it is "Your" George?

I would be looking for details of those two deaths on the same date in Hindmarsh, South Australia?!
Keyboard86

[lahpun]

Thanks again for your help.

Will check out this line and see if they did actually come to Australia or not.

Lesley

[Annette7]

lahpun - yes, the family I was referring to was Henry's so he was not the one you found killed in an explosion.

Harriet Kaye died in the Dec.qtr.1902 West Derby, Lancashire
James Kaye died in the Sept.qtr.1905 West Derby, Lancashire

In 1901 they were living in Kirkdale, Lancashire which came under the registration district of West Derby.

Annette

[suzard]

Thank you to all of you for such a quick reply.

To K.Garrard: Charles Ninnim (47) such a young age to pass over.  He was working on a ship and something snapped and hit him in the head nearly severing the top of his head he died by 3pm in the afternoon.

To Carol W: I don't actually have the marriage certificate for Harriett just going on what is available on someone else's tree where they say she is the daughter of a Thomas Butler, Inn keeper.  We believe that she is the daughter of a Stephen Butler and Sarah Shepherd King who married in 1831.  Don't know when Harriet(t) Kaye died. 

 
Lesley

I believe Harriet was the daughter of Stephen and Sarah

Baptism Pentridge Dorset
5 may 1844 Harriet King Butler 
daughter of Stephen & Sarah Butlet
address Woodgates Dorset
father's  occ Ostler and ?/(blot over this word)

1861 it looks like she is with her Uncle and Aunt
1861 Cowsfield Com Whiteparish
Thomas King head M 50 Gardener & F 10 acres Powner hants
Jane King wife 52 Plymouth Devon
HARRIET BUTLER neice 17 General servant Woodgate Dorset
RG9 1313 85 7

this looks a possible for Harriet after her marriage to james Kaye
1871
108 F Block Liverpool lancs
James Kaye head M 35 Railway Porter Kirkburton Yks
HARRIET  wife 27 Woodgate Dorset
Davis son 8mths Liverpool Lancs
RG10 3761 44 4

Suz
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Apologies for my typo-Davis is most certainly David
Suz

[lahpun]

Thanks Annette for the dates of death for Harriett and James Kaye.

and

Susz, thanks for telling me about David Kaye.

Regards
Lesley

[keyboard86]

OK I googled George Ninnim Ringwood and found the same Henstredge site, some semblance of fact other than George occ Carpenter of Ringwood, Father Charles occ Cooper, Harriet King Butler Father Thomas Butler occ Inn Keeper.

How/Why eg Harriet gave Thomas as her father I do not know, and George changes occupation, and we do not know if Harriet was shown as a Widow when she marries James Kaye?
Keyboard86

PS Still believe father of George, Charles died 1857 Alderbury, not 1859?

[keyboard86]

OK now being swayed that George perhaps changed occupation, the whereabouts of Harriet b 1844 Woodyates/Woodgate(s) in 1851 to locate, but located Stephen/Sarah Butler and family in 1841 census in Woodyates, Stephen occ Postman, in 1851 census:-

Sarah Butler 44 Widow occ Formerly INN KEEPER b Wiltshire
John S? Butler 14 b Woodyates
Edward S? Butler 11 b Woodyates
Sarah E Butler 5 b Woodyates
Residing St Ives, Christcurch, Ringwood
Census ref HO107/1667/200/16

Sarah appears to remarry a George Brent by 1861, Census ref RG09/668/56/8

Birth Fanny Jane BRINT June qtr 1852 Ringwood mmn King
Keyboard86

EDIT OK now located Harriet Butler in 1851 census aged 7 b Pentridge with Thomas King 40 b Ringwood, Jane 41 b Plymouth at Cowesfield, Whiteparish
Census ref HO107/1846/148/29
Wonder why Harriet appears to stay with Thomas/Jane over two census returns, even naming a Thomas occ Inn Keeper as her father at marriage to George?!

[Annette7]

Harriet Ninnim, widow, daughter of Stephen Butler, Publican, married James Kaye 11/7/1869 St. Lukes, Liverpool - (marriage is on Ancestry).

Annette

[keyboard86]

Harriet Ninnim, widow, daughter of Stephen Butler, Publican, married James Kaye 11/7/1869 St. Lukes, Liverpool - (marriage is on Ancestry).

Annette

Which now brings into doubt the two trees on Anc**** showing deaths for both Arthur & George in Australia on the same day/date/place ( Having doubts myself, ages at death too exact)!
Keyboard86

EDIT Think we possibly need help from Australia?