Tracing a family member

[lizdb]

1901
74 Beckett Street Camberwell
William Hale 41 gen labourer
Sarah 36
William 15  bn Bermonsey
ALice 13
Margaret 10
Clara 5
Charles 2

[hamali]

oh thank you so much will now start tracing them backward 

[candrjm]

Marriage for parents of William Rowland Hale:

Marriages Mar 1883

HALE    William John        St Saviour Southwark    1d   15   
SYRES    Sarah         St. Saviour    1d   15


William's birth reg:

HALE, WILLIAM  ROWLAND      mother's maiden name SYERS      
GRO Reference: 1886  M Quarter in SAINT OLAVE SOUTHWARK  Volume 01D  Page 243

[LizzieL]

There is a marriage in Newington on 2 Aug 1891 for Ann Frances Ludlow and a William Burns labourer. His father was also William (deceased) occ shoemaker. William made his mark, so possibly Sydney his second name or clerk muddled the name with his father's and he couldn't read to check it. Ann Ludlow's father was  John Richard Ludlow (deceased) occ carman

[LizzieL]

That's odd the 1891 has Ann(a) Frances with father Henry not John Richard. same address as marriage record - 22 South street

[hamali]

Oh dear that is odd I will see what her dad is called in the 1881 census

[LizzieL]

A John Richard Ludlow occ Carman married Ann Culverwell on 25 Dec 1856, his father was Henry (deceased) also a carman, so may'be J R used hid father's name later? Need to find the daughter Anna Frances's birth reg to check mmn

[hamali]

hi there LizzieL in 1891 Henry is her grandad as she is down as grandaughter not daughter

[LizzieL]

Mary is grandaughter, the Ann who married Sydney ( or William ) Burns was the daughter,

Got Anna's birth reg
 
LUDLOW, FRANCES  ANN     mmn CULVERWELL     Q2 1867 NEWINGTON  Volume 01D  Page 240