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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #36 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 21:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi the couple are with the parents of John W in 1891 census:-

Samuel Taylor 53
Mary A 54
John W 24
Elizabeth 23
Joseph 10 months

Birth registration Joseph Taylor June qtr 1890 Stourbridge mmn COOK
Baptism Joseph Taylor 18th June 1890 Lye  Father John Mother Elizabeth
Census ref RG12/2304/140/3
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PS where does Joseph go after 1891, as cannot locate likely death?

Hi again, this is the 1891 census that shows the newly married couple.
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #37 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Hi the couple are with the parents of John W in 1891 census:-

Samuel Taylor 53
Mary A 54
John W 24
Elizabeth 23
Joseph 10 months

Birth registration Joseph Taylor June qtr 1890 Stourbridge mmn COOK
Baptism Joseph Taylor 18th June 1890 Lye  Father John Mother Elizabeth
Census ref RG12/2304/140/3
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PS where does Joseph go after 1891, as cannot locate likely death?

Hi again, this is the 1891 census that shows the newly married couple.
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So I have the wrong family from Censuses 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 in my previous message?

I'm now confused as I thought I was looking for a Samuel Taylor, father of Sarah Taylor with a brother also named Samuel as both Samuel and Alma (Philip Henry Adams' sister) were witnesses at the marriage of Sarah and Philip's wedding at St. John's, Halesowen in order to find the correct Sarah Taylor?

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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #38 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi again look at that link again for 1881 census with a Sarah Taylor aged 8 b Cradley with a brother Samuel?
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #39 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi again look at that link again for 1881 census with a Sarah Taylor aged 8 b Cradley with a brother Samuel?
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1861 Census: -

Name   Samuel Taylor
Age   26
Estimated Birth Year   1835
Relation   Head
Spouse's Name   Mary A Taylor
Gender   Male
Where born   Old Swinford, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish   Cradley
Ecclesiastical parish   Halesowen
County/Island   Worcestershire
Country   England
Registration district   Stourbridge
Sub-registration district   Halesowen
ED, institution, or vessel   7
Household schedule number   133
Piece   2063
Folio   103
Page number   27
Household Members   
Name   Age
Samuel Taylor Age 26 - Horse nailer   
Mary A Taylor Age 27 - Nailer   
Thomas Taylor Age 5 - Scholar   
Elizabeth Taylor   Age 3 - Scholar
Joseph Taylor Age 5 months


1871 Census: -

Name   Samuel Taylor
Age   36
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1835
Relation   Head
Spouse's Name   Mary Taylor
Gender   Male
Where born   Lye, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish   Cradley
Ecclesiastical parish   Cradley
County/Island   Worcestershire
Country   England
Registration district   Stourbridge
Sub-registration district   Halesowen
ED, institution, or vessel   7
Household schedule number   173
Piece   3019
Folio   24
Page number   41
Household Members   
Name   Age
Samuel Taylor   36 - Horse nail maker
Mary Taylor   37 - Horse nail maker
Thomas Taylor   15 - Nail maker
Elizebeth Taylor   12 - Nail maker
Joseph Taylor   10 - Scholar
William Taylor   8 - Scholar
John Taylor   5 - Scholar
Samuel Taylor   3 - Scholar
Mary Taylor   3 Months


1881 Census: -

Name   Sara Taylor
Age   8
Estimated Birth Year   abt 1873
Relationship to Head   Daughter
Father   Saml. Taylor
Mother   Mary A. Taylor
Gender   Female
Where born   Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Civil parish   Wollescote
County/Island   Worcestershire
Country   England
Street Address   Oldnall
Occupation   Scholar
Registration district   Stourbridge
ED, institution, or vessel   21
Piece   2890
Folio   18
Page number   30
Household Members   
Name   Age
Saml. Taylor   46 - Labourer
Mary A. Taylor   47
William Taylor   18 - Horse nail maker
John Taylor   15 - Horse nail maker
Samuel Taylor   13 - Scholar
Mary A. Taylor   10 - Scholar
Sara Taylor   8 - Scholar



1891 Census:-

Name:   Samuel Taylor
Gender:   Male
Age:   23
Relationship:   Son
Birth Year:   1868
Father:   Samuel Taylor
Mother:   Mary A Taylor
Birth Place:   Lye, Worcestershire, England
Civil Parish:   Wollescote
Ecclesiastical parish:   Christchurch
Residence Place:   Wollescote, Worcestershire, England
Registration district:   Stourbridge
Sub registration district:   Stourbridge
ED, Institution or Vessel:   20
Neighbors:   View others on page
Piece:   2304
Folio:   144
Household Members:   
Name   Age
Samuel Taylor   38
Mary A Taylor   49
Mary Taylor   25
Samuel Taylor   23
John H Taylor   19
Benjamin Taylor   10

Marriage: -
18 August 1895 at St, John, The, Baptist, Halesowen, Worcestershire, England
Philip Henry ADAMS 23 B Stock Taker Belle Vale Hawne Father John Billingham Adams Stock Taker Sarah TAYLOR 22 S The Mount Boro' Father Samuel Taylor Labourer After Banns/Both Signed Wit; Samuel Taylor / Alma Adams

As you mentioned somewhere on here that Sarah Taylor worked as a servant at The Mount Boro' so seeing that she would have been 18 years old, Sarah may be listed under The Mount Boro' employer on the 1891 census?

So sorry I have looked again but I can't see where or how the Cook Family fits in as don't see them on the 1881 Census?


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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #40 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Do you mean this link?    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-KXVG

Yes, and then the John on that census married an Elizabeth Cooke 1889 Stourbridge as John Whinnall Taylor.
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The 1891 census family shows this couple?
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #41 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 22:09 GMT (UK) »
Hi re your other query re " The Mount", in 1891 a Sarah Taylor is aged 18 b Lye occ Servant at The Mount, Bromsgrove Street, Halesowen
Census ref RG12/2301/125/37
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This I is who I think Sarah is in 1891 census
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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #42 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 22:11 GMT (UK) »
Do you mean this link?    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-KXVG

Yes, and then the John on that census married an Elizabeth Cooke 1889 Stourbridge as John Whinnall Taylor.
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The 1891 census family shows this couple?
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No, can't see Elizabeth Cooke or John Whinnall Taylor when I click on your link. It comes up as shown below: -

Sara Taylor
England and Wales Census, 1881
Name   Sara Taylor
Event Type   Census
Event Date   1881
Event Place   Wollescote, Worcestershire, England
Registration District   Stourbridge
Gender   Female
Age   8
Marital Status (Original)   Single
Occupation   Scholar
Relationship to Head of Household   Daughter
Birth Year (Estimated)   1873
Birthplace   Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Page Number   30
Registration Number   RG11
Piece/Folio   2890/18
Affiliate Record Type   Household

Household
Role
Sex
Age
Birthplace

Saml Taylor   Head   M   46   England
Mary A Taylor   Wife   F   47   England
William Taylor   Son   M   18   Lye, Worcestershire, England
John Taylor   Son   M   15   Wollescote, Worcestershire, England
Saml Taylor   Son   M   13   Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Mary A Taylor   Daughter   F   10   Cradley, Worcestershire, England
Sara Taylor   Daughter   F   8   Cradley, Worcestershire, England

Citing this Record
"England and Wales Census, 1881," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-KXVG : 12 December 2017), Sara Taylor in household of Saml Taylor, Wollescote, Worcestershire, England; from "1881 England, Scotland and Wales Census," database and images, findmypast (http://www.findmypast.com : n.d.); citing p. 30, Piece/Folio 2890/18, The National Archives, Kew, Surrey; FHL microfilm 101,774,823.

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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #43 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 22:12 GMT (UK) »
Hi re your other query re " The Mount", in 1891 a Sarah Taylor is aged 18 b Lye occ Servant at The Mount, Bromsgrove Street, Halesowen
Census ref RG12/2301/125/37
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This I is who I think Sarah is in 1891 census
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I can't find the link for that one - how do I do it?

The age 18 fits and also the name The Mount but not sure where "Boro" comes in as mentioned in their wedding document?

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Re: The 1895 marriage of Philip Henry Adams and Sarah Taylor?
« Reply #44 on: Wednesday 13 December 17 22:16 GMT (UK) »
Do you mean this link?    https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:Q27F-KXVG

Yes, and then the John on that census married an Elizabeth Cooke 1889 Stourbridge as John Whinnall Taylor.
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As John Whinnall Taylor did not marry Elizabeth Cooke until 1889 you will not find them together?
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PS maybe "Boro" is short for Bromsgrove?
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