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Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 17 March 22 08:08 GMT (UK) »
Steven, this is my family and I have all that information about them and more, including every available birth/baptism, banns/marriage, death/burial and census record.

You are more than welcome to look it all up, and it's very kind of you to do so, but be please be aware that any information you look up about Burgess and related families in Keith and vicinity will duplicate what I have already done.


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Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
« Reply #19 on: Thursday 17 March 22 08:30 GMT (UK) »
This is an extract from my notes about Elspet Young:

When exactly did Elspet Young die? The Keith burial records say 8 March 1837 but this is impossible as her youngest child was born on 27 July 1837. So is this a different Elspet Young, or an error in the Keith parish register?

John Burgess and Isabella Ingram were summoned before the Kirk Session in October 1838, and on 21 October 1838 the Kirk Session decided to await the birth of their child to see whether it was a case of adultery (as opposed to the lesser sin of fornication). So Elspet must have been alive at least nine months before 21 October 1838, therefore she must have been alive in January 1838.

John and Isabella's son George was listed as aged 3 on 6 June 1841. If accurate, this would place his date of birth as between 7 June 1837 and 6 June 1838. This is inconsistent with the Kirk Session record. In 1851 and 1871 his age implies a birth in 1837/1838. However in 1861 he is listed as aged 22, which would give a birth date between 8 April 1838 and 7 April 1839.


I have not found any record of the burial of my great-great-great-grandfather John Burgess, but he has to be in Keith Old Cemetery because in 1871 it was the only burial ground in Keith, where he had lived most of his life.
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Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
« Reply #20 on: Monday 24 July 23 04:49 BST (UK) »
Hello. Hope all is well. I am a direct descendant from James fraser and Sarah Taylor. Most of family members in the burial plot was able to connect, however I have been stuck on family members that I can’t find the connection to the Fraser’s. A big help is needed. Names are bellow:

James cameron
Anne Asher
Donald McIver
Ann McKay
Robert Paterson
Robert Allen
James Carmichael Fraser
Jane Alexander
Duncan Martin
Charles Stuart

Chris Fraser

Page 237. Name: John Fraser. Section Number on Plan 212. Extent of Ground on West side 6 feet 3 inches, on East side two lengths 5 feet 0 inches. 
Age
Depth of Grave
Number of Grave
Stone

Date of Burial
Dec 18th 1834 Sarah Taylor   3 W side 
Dec 23rd 1834 Margaret Fraser   3 W side 
Apr 25th 1835 James Cameron a child   1 E side 
Jun 20th 1838 Ann Asher   1 E side 
Apr 21st 1840 Thomas Fraser   2 W side 
Feb 16th 1842 Donald McIver   2 E side 
Mar 21st 1842 Ann McKay   2 E side 
Jan 5th 1843 Robert Paterson   1 W side 
Feb 17th 1845 Robert Allan   1 E side 
Jun 29th 1846 John Fraser Snr   3 W side 
Jul 27th 1847 John Fraser a boy   2 W side 
Feb 4th 1848 James Carmichael Fraser   1 E side 
Oct 4th 1853 Ann Fraser   3 W side 
Jan 13th 1855 Mary Gordon Fraser   1 W side 
Feb 5th 1855 Raffan a child   1 E side 
Dec 28th 1855 Fraser a child   3 W side 
Jun 25th 1856 Alexander Fraser a boy   1 W side 
Sep 5th 1856 John Gauld a boy   2 W side 
Jan 15th 1861 Jane Alexander a child   1 East 
Jul 30th 1863 Hellen Smith Fraser a girl   2 West 
Sep 29th 1864 Duncan Martin a child   2 East 
Oct 13th 1864 Jane Fraser or Murdoch   3 West 
Dec 6th 1865 Hendry a child   1 East 
Feb 21st 1867 Isobel Fraser   1 West 
Mar 20th 1868 Green a child   2 West 
Oct 19th 1870 Charles Stuart a child   2 East 
Apr 23rd 1872 Helen Fraser   1 East 
Feb 25th 1873 Margaret Monk or Fraser   2 East 
Jan 7th 1874 Janet Fraser or McKay   3 W side 
Mar 25th 1874 John Fraser Simpson a child   3 W side 
Sep 20th 1875 James Fraser   2 W side 
Nov 16th 1875 Jane Fraser a child   2 W side 
Mar 24th 1877 John Fraser, Fife-Keith   1 W side 
Jan 15th 1879 Helen Smith or Fraser   1 W side 
May 28th 1879 Jessie Gauld   1 E side 
Jan 25th 1881 Alexander Gauld   2 E side 
Mar 13th 1883 John Fraser, Moss Street, Keith   2 W side 
Feb 14th 1905 William Fraser, Keith   2 W side 
Dec 29th 1905 May Grant or Fraser   3 West 
Apr 2nd 1907 Jas Fraser Moush   1 West 
Nov 18th 1908 Jane Fraser Gauld   1 East 
Mar 1st 1917 Jessie Fraser or Mann  4 ft 2 East 
Aug 16th 1917 Harry James Edward a child  3 ft 1 West 
May 4th 1922 William Mann  4 ft 1 East 
Dec 21st 1936 Margaret Taylor or Fraser 74 4 ft 2 West 
Dec 8th 1956 Catherine F. Ingram 59  1 West 
Feb 20th 2004 Kathleen Mary Ingram, Ashburton, New Zealand  Ashes   

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Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
« Reply #21 on: Monday 24 July 23 22:49 BST (UK) »
Hello. Hope all is well. I am a direct descendant from James fraser and Sarah Taylor.
Which of their children are you descended from?

Because their daughter-in-law Anne Knight (1829-1898), wife of their son William Fraser (1830/1-1908) was my second cousin 3 times removed.
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Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
« Reply #22 on: Monday 24 July 23 23:26 BST (UK) »
Hello. So my direct line is from gg-grandfather James Fraser (brother to William Fraser who married Anne Knight) married Helen Tough. 3rd great James Fraser married Sarah Taylor.

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Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
« Reply #23 on: Tuesday 25 July 23 20:28 BST (UK) »
Ah. So we are connected but not related.

William F and Anne K emigrated to New Zealand in 1861 with their three surviving children, and settled in Christchurch. They had five more children there, only one of whom survived to adulthood.
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Re: Cemetery in Keith, Banffshire, Scotland
« Reply #24 on: Tuesday 25 July 23 22:37 BST (UK) »
Hello. So my direct line is from gg-grandfather James Fraser (brother to William Fraser who married Anne Knight) married Helen Tough. 3rd great James Fraser married Sarah Taylor.

Chris fraser