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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #207 on: Thursday 14 December 17 15:45 GMT (UK) »
There is no official space for it on the certificate
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #208 on: Thursday 14 December 17 16:49 GMT (UK) »
Depends how chatty they are when they are filling in the form  ;D  It is not a question that is generally asked.

Hmmm ok  8)
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #209 on: Thursday 14 December 17 16:57 GMT (UK) »
Going back many pages I mentioned that on my Grandfather Marriage cert he gives his father's occupation as a miner rather than saying deceased as many other marriage certs I have say.
Could this be relevant or was he as stupid as his father.
Date was 1928

There have been ever so many threads on this very topic on Rootschat

As Rosie has said, the absence of the word ‘deceased’ after the father’s name most definitely does not mean he was still alive.

It just depended if the question ‘is your father still alive or is he dead’ happened to be asked, or, if it wasn’t, if either the bride or groom happened to offer the information.
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #210 on: Thursday 14 December 17 18:07 GMT (UK) »
... the absence of the word ‘deceased’ after the father’s name most definitely does not mean he was still alive ...

 ... nor does its presence mean the father is no longer alive.  :-\
Today I broke my personal record for most consecutive days alive.


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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #211 on: Thursday 14 December 17 20:00 GMT (UK) »
There is no official space for it on the certificate

This what I refer to Rosie
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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #212 on: Thursday 14 December 17 20:18 GMT (UK) »
According to the electorals (again!), James Brown and Martha (Brown) were together by the end of the war (perhaps not surprising).
It appears that when/if the 1921 census is released you will find Martha still living at 31 River View, Chopwell!

1931 has them at the aforementioned Landsale Houses, Ryton. Also Martha Isabella Bell.

An oddity
Mention in the newspapers preview of Mrs Colthard, 31, River View, Blackhall Mill, Hamsterley. She had received word that her husband Jacob had been wounded in 1915. He was in the Royal Navy, and died. Name is actually Coulthard
Jacob Coulthard (1884-1915)
http://www.durhamatwar.org.uk/story/13363/

So, I thought, the boarding house was still going strong (I'm sure it was!)
But if Jacob born 1884 was married, there is only one possible in the indexes
March 1913 Gateshead 10a 1586
Coulthard, Jacob - spouse Turner
Turner, Martha - spouse Coulthard

So which Martha Turner is that?

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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #213 on: Thursday 14 December 17 20:20 GMT (UK) »
Wow! Could it be?
Marriage, June 1918 Gateshead 10a 1594
Brown, James - spouse  Coulthard   
Coulthard, Martha - spouse Brown   

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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #214 on: Thursday 14 December 17 20:24 GMT (UK) »
Wow, great finds.  I'm intrigued!
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Great Grandfather died in WW1 im starting to think not
« Reply #215 on: Thursday 14 December 17 20:33 GMT (UK) »
So Martha has married Jacob Coulthard then James Brown ?

It can't be Martha jnr as she would only be 15 in 1913
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