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Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« on: Saturday 09 December 17 17:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi my gg grandfather was John O'Lone born Belfast 1842 he was QMS in the Royal Irish Rifles
he married Mary Spence in Tralee 1872 after overseas posting. Their children included 2 sons
killed in WW1 Capt. Walter Percy DCM and Capt. Robert James O'Lone MID.
Johns father was called Patrick O'lone lived in Belfast and was a shoemaker they were
presbyterians. I have tried to find any records for Patrick and his family but come up with
nothing, the Patricks i do find are wrong ages and catholics. I have traced my other relatives
Spence Dines Kennedy but Patrick O'Lone is proving to be a brick wall.

Any help would be appreciated  :)

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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #1 on: Saturday 09 December 17 23:08 GMT (UK) »
Civil registration of births, deaths & Catholic marriages began 1864 (non-Catholic marriages from 1845) so earlier records may not be online or even exist.

Have you tried civil registration index (for a death if father died after 1864)? directories for Belfast?
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #3 on: Saturday 09 December 17 23:45 GMT (UK) »
Just a snippet probably of no relevence,
Ros Davies County Down surname lists
Miss Gertrude Caroline  O'Lone daughter of John O'Lone a soldier married Charles Trotter
14th Jan 1920 at Newtonards Presbyterian church there are a couple of other snippets that may be of interest to you
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 10 December 17 10:29 GMT (UK) »
Other than the marriage certificate what other documentation do you have that states Patrick is his father,and that they were Presbyterian,could John not have married out of his faith,I am not sure how or where the marriage licence details are held but they may give a little more detail
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #5 on: Sunday 10 December 17 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Nice little cluster of Olone,in Omagh
29th March 1890
Ellen Olone
aged 70 years
widow of a shoemaker
cause of death old age
registered by her son James who was present when she died
Gunning County Down,Kneale Isle of Man,Riddle Tynemouth,Bibby Kendal/Bradford,Colenso Penzance/Barrow-in-Furness,Steele Corney Fell,Chapman Ely,Dawes Alfreton,Blamire Westmoreland and Ulverston
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 10 December 17 11:13 GMT (UK) »
Both 1901 and 1911 census list O'Lone family as Presbyterian (links posted earlier). He's the 1872 marriage which list Mary Spence's residence as Belfast-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/marriage_returns/marriages_1872/11311/8150629.pdf

Link to 1890 Ellen O'Lone death-
https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1890/06106/4742751.pdf

Widow Eliza O'Lone in Reaghan townland-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Tyrone/Dunbreen/Reaghan/874302

James (shoemaker) & wife Lizzie there in 1901-
www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Tyrone/Dunbreen/Reaghan/1745784
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 10 December 17 11:23 GMT (UK) »
Article on Walter Percy O'Lone mentions father's military service, etc.

More family details here but looks as though you already know this information-
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/topic/254384-captain-charles-henry-spence/
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Re: Patrick O'lone, finding the correct Patrick?
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 10 December 17 12:04 GMT (UK) »
Hi aghadowey and Radcliff thanks so much for showing an interest and helping me.
Yes alot off the stuff i already have, on Ros Davies site she has an Agnes O'lone daughter
of James O'lone marrying a William McKay in Knockbreda 18th April 1867  again presbyterian
so wondering could she be a cousin off my Johns?
Ros has given me all the imformation on the Omagh and Antrim O'loans but honestly cant see
them being related they all seem to be farmers etc. I am wondering if Johns father called himself
Patrick whilst in Tralee there was a very strong military background in the family so perhaps he was hiding something also a strong connection to Victoria Barracks so who knows?