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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #54 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:24 GMT (UK) »
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Her parents were Rose Alice Garnham born 7 March 1888 Ipswich, died 14 June 1924, Ipswich when Edith was five years old, and  Richard Johnson, born 1877, Camberwell, Surrey.

This is why we need GS to confirm dates.
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #55 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:30 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Greensleeves on Wednesday 27 December 17 21:00 GMT (UK)
I still haven't found a death for Richard.  The details I have for him are that he was born 1877 in Camberwell, Surrey, and this is taken from his attestation papers.  Further military papers show his marriage to Rose Alice Garnham in Felixstowe

Have the military records for two separate Richards perhaps been elided here?  It may be that the 1877 one is a red herring and that this explains the difficulties experienced in trying to trace him.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #56 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:33 GMT (UK) »
William Johnson b 16 Aug 1883 was baptised 2 Sep 1883 at St John's, Waterloo Rd.

Parents: James William Johnson (asphalter) and Margaret, of 12 Charles St, Westminster Bridge Rd.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #57 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:36 GMT (UK) »
Margaret Glover???

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #58 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:38 GMT (UK) »
Well, shows I can't count if I have his dob as 1877 and he was 18 in 1909.  Whoops, my apologies there.  Presumably his dob should read 1891, which as you say would account for the lack of evidence of him in the censuses.  That means he was five years older than Rose, his wife, so still a comparatively young man when Rose died.

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Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #59 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:40 GMT (UK) »
I don't know how this fits in
James William Johnson full age asphalter 2 Kinaston St ? father Frederick dec
to
Margaret Glover full age father Thomas dec
04/08/1879
St Johns Waterloo

witnesses W D Mann and Elizabeth Mann

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Granath Sweden and London
Garner, Marylebone Paddington  Northolt Ilford
Garner, Devon
Garner New Zealand
Maddieson
Parkinson St Pancras,
Jenkins Marylebone Paddington
Mizon/Mison/Myson Paddington
Tindal Marylebone Paddington
Tocock, (name changed to Ellis) London
Southam Marylebone, Paddington
Bragg Lambeth 1800's
Edermaniger(Maniger) Essex Kent Canada (Toronto)
Coveney Kent Lambeth
Sondes kent and London

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #60 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:45 GMT (UK) »
Is this now the correct Richard? Date still slightly out

JOHNSON, RICHARD    mmn   GLOVER     
1893  M Quarter in CAMBERWELL 
Volume 01D  Page 903   Order
 
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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #61 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:51 GMT (UK) »
This could be Richard in 1911 - from FamilySearch in the army in Malta

Richard Johnson
   1911
Elmo Malta, Overseas Military,
Age   20
Marital Status    SINGLE
Birth Year (Estimated)   1891
Birthplace   Camberwell, Surrey

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #62 on: Thursday 28 December 17 12:54 GMT (UK) »
And James Johnson and Kate with the married Margaret in the free index, same year
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