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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #63 on: Thursday 28 December 17 13:22 GMT (UK) »
So Richard's marriage certificate to confirm Father, and birth certificate with exact date of birth to find him in 1939 for possible useful address also, and to search for his death?

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #64 on: Thursday 28 December 17 13:24 GMT (UK) »
This could be Richard in 1911 - from FamilySearch in the army in Malta

Richard Johnson
   1911
Elmo Malta, Overseas Military,
Age   20
Marital Status    SINGLE
Birth Year (Estimated)   1891
Birthplace   Camberwell, Surrey

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X7VW-JVP

Looks good - his Army record shows he was in Malta 1909-1914.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #65 on: Thursday 28 December 17 13:44 GMT (UK) »
1881 census: RG11/531/69/5

12 Charles St, Southwark (matches the address on William's 1883 baptism)

James William Johnson Head Mar 24 Labourer Surrey Lambeth
Minnie do Wife Mar 25 Surrey Lambeth
Minnie do Daur 10mo Surrey Southwark


Minnie Johnson mmn Glover, birth reg Sep qtr 1880 St Saviour Southwark
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #66 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:07 GMT (UK) »
These baptisms:
Minnie Johnson  baptised  4 July 1880   Lambeth St John the Evangelist   Lambeth   James William,
Margaret   

Frederick Johnson baptised 16 April 1882   Lambeth St John the Evangelist   Lambeth   James William,  Margaret   

William Johnson  baptised 2 September 1883   Lambeth St John the Evangelist   Lambeth   James William,  Margaret   

Margaret Johnson  baptised 6 September  1885   Earls Court St Matthias   Kensington and Chelsea   James William,  Margaret   

James Johnson  baptised 3 May 1885 (born September 18th 1884)  Earls Court St Matthias   Kensington and Chelsea   James William,  Margaret

The records on Ancestry stop in 1892 in Kensington, so Richard would not show.


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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #67 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:09 GMT (UK) »
No wonder I was having problems - was searching for a Richard bc.1870's Camberwell??

Richard's sister Margaret (shown as Minnie at birth, and on earlier census) married a Thomas Alfred Chandler 19/4/1908 and her address was given as '65 Royal Terrace' which thus confirms the army service record address.   By the next census her father and sister Kate (shown as Kathleen in 1901) are living with them.

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #68 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:26 GMT (UK) »

Richard's sister Margaret (shown as Minnie at birth, and on earlier census) married a Thomas Alfred Chandler 19/4/1908 and her address was given as '65 Royal Terrace' which thus confirms the army service record address.   By the next census her father and sister Kate (shown as Kathleen in 1901) are living with them.


That's great re 65 Royal Terrace.  We now have references to that address in connection with the Johnson family spanning 1908-1910.

I am not sure Margaret (jnr) and Minnie (jnr) are the same person.  Margaret is 22 when she marries Thomas Alfred Chandler in Feb 1908, consistent with the 1885 baptism found by chempat and in turn with this birth reg:

Margaret Johnson mmn Glover, Sep qtr 1885 Kensington

Also: James Johnson mmn Glover, Dec qtr 1884 Kensington, again consistent with the Earl's Court baptism.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #69 on: Thursday 28 December 17 14:38 GMT (UK) »
1891 census: 3 Providence Place, Lambeth

James W Johnson Head Mar 32 Asphalter, King St Lambeth
Minnie do Wife Mar 35, George St Camberwell
Minnie do Daur 10, Charles St Lambeth
William do Son 7, Charles St Lambeth
James do Son 6, Earls Ct Kensington
Margaret do Daur 5, Earls Ct Kensington
Walter do Son 1, Commercial St Lambeth

RG12/388/112/69
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #70 on: Thursday 28 December 17 16:00 GMT (UK) »
This might be Walter (with family on 1891 census):
Birth of Walter Johnson mmn Glora in June quarter 1890 in Lambeth

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Re: Looking for Edith Grace Johnson b. 1919 Ipswich
« Reply #71 on: Thursday 28 December 17 16:44 GMT (UK) »
Possible death for Walter Johnson: Jun qtr 1892 Camberwell, aged 2.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)