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Re: Marriage at Roscommon
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 20 September 18 16:39 BST (UK) »
How true is this??


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Basil (Bazel) Sandys (b. 1800, d. 1871)
Basil (Bazel) Sandys (son of Edwin Sandys and Catherine Aldwell) was born 1800 in Rathkeale, Limerick, Ireland, and died 1871



.He married (1) Unknown.He married (2) Catherine Geraghty on 21 Sep 1837.He married (3) Catherine Otter on 1855.
More About Basil (Bazel) Sandys:
Census 1: 1861, Shows a daughter Sarah aged 4.
Census 2: 1841, Shows Eliza born.
Census 3: 1871, Shows him working as a lawyers clerk.
Crimes 1: 10 Jun 1839, Basil was arrested for and beating his 13 year old daughter sensless and the bone handle of the whip punctured her scull,fracturing it.It seems she had not looked after her syblings as well as he wanted.The child 's mother was dead..
Crimes 2: 1845, Marshalsea Debtors prison, held for possible non payment of a debt..
Died 2: Abt. 1871, Wrote letter home, dies in London.
Endowment (LDS): 1845, Basil and brother Willam donate land for a Church to be built..
Marriages 1: It is possible he was married three times. There were children from the first marrage, at least four, one was the 13year old girl beaten and brain damaged by Basil..
Marriages 2: 1822, Signs marriage articles, father, Edwin, deceased..
Marriages 3: 1855, Catherine Otter.
Occupation 1: 1827, Becomes Excise Officer.
Occupation 2: 1836, Before this date wasposted at Longford, as Excise Officer.
Residence 1: 1850, London.
Residence 2: 1939, London.
More About Basil (Bazel) Sandys and Catherine Geraghty:
Marriage: 21 Sep 1837
More About Basil (Bazel) Sandys and Catherine Otter:
Marriage: 1855
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Re: Marriage at Roscommon
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 20 September 18 20:53 BST (UK) »
How true is this??
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Basil (Bazel) Sandys (b. 1800, d. 1871)
Basil (Bazel) Sandys (son of Edwin Sandys and Catherine Aldwell) was born 1800 in Rathkeale, Limerick, Ireland, and died 1871



.He married (1) Unknown.He married (2) Catherine Geraghty on 21 Sep 1837.He married (3) Catherine Otter on 1855.
More About Basil (Bazel) Sandys:
Census 1: 1861, Shows a daughter Sarah aged 4.
Census 2: 1841, Shows Eliza born.
Census 3: 1871, Shows him working as a lawyers clerk.
Crimes 1: 10 Jun 1839, Basil was arrested for and beating his 13 year old daughter sensless and the bone handle of the whip punctured her scull,fracturing it.It seems she had not looked after her syblings as well as he wanted.The child 's mother was dead..
Crimes 2: 1845, Marshalsea Debtors prison, held for possible non payment of a debt..
Died 2: Abt. 1871, Wrote letter home, dies in London.
Endowment (LDS): 1845, Basil and brother Willam donate land for a Church to be built..
Marriages 1: It is possible he was married three times. There were children from the first marrage, at least four, one was the 13year old girl beaten and brain damaged by Basil..
Marriages 2: 1822, Signs marriage articles, father, Edwin, deceased..
Marriages 3: 1855, Catherine Otter.
Occupation 1: 1827, Becomes Excise Officer.
Occupation 2: 1836, Before this date wasposted at Longford, as Excise Officer.
Residence 1: 1850, London.
Residence 2: 1939, London.
More About Basil (Bazel) Sandys and Catherine Geraghty:
Marriage: 21 Sep 1837
More About Basil (Bazel) Sandys and Catherine Otter:
Marriage: 1855

The entries I have highlighted in blue are either incorrect or unknown to me.
1800 born in Rathkeale.  This is from his Excise application.  1856 Settlement Return has 28 Aug 1800 in Cork - but I haven't seen a source for this
1822 signs marriage articles - I don't know anything about this
1841 census England - Basil was with son Edwin - no sign of wife or other children. (The first proved sighting of Eliza/Elizabeth Aldwell Sandys is her marriage)
1845 Basil & William donate land to Church.  Doesn't really fit with being in debtors prison!
1845 - Marshalsea debtors prison I don't know anything about this
1871 - died 14 July (death cert).  I don't know about a letter
1939 residence - obviously incorrect.

My cousin Wendy Beasley is pretty much correct, but there are occasional errors and lack of cited sources.  Her tribalpages page is more accurate and up-to-date.

Philip
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Re: Marriage at Roscommon
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 20 September 18 21:25 BST (UK) »
Great, straightforward reply!!
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Re: Marriage at Roscommon
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 20 September 18 21:52 BST (UK) »
Great, straightforward reply!!

Thank you, kind sir.  As you are taking very much appreciated time and trouble on this search I will do my best.

I am curious about Basil in 1845.  Donating land to the Church and being in Marshalsea debtor's prison is very odd.  I need to see if I can prove the Marshalsea event.
(ADDED: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=382442.0 seems to disprove this)


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Re: Marriage at Roscommon
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 20 September 18 21:57 BST (UK) »
1822 signs marriage articles - Is this the Marriage Articles of 1824 that your cousin is referring to??
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Re: Marriage at Roscommon
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 20 September 18 22:02 BST (UK) »
Great, straightforward reply!!

Thank you, kind sir.  As you are taking very much appreciated time and trouble on this search I will do my best.

I am curious about Basil in 1845.  Donating land to the Church and being in Marshalsea debtor's prison is very odd.  I need to see if I can prove the Marshalsea event.
(ADDED: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=382442.0 seems to disprove this)


Philip


That is Why I was even reluctant to post that Genealogy.com tree...  At first glance it looks as if good research has been done and what is there is factual!!

I did notice him dying twice!!   ;D ;D
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Re: Marriage at Roscommon
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 20 September 18 22:09 BST (UK) »
1822 signs marriage articles - Is this the Marriage Articles of 1824 that your cousin is referring to??

I suppose she might have been, but I think this must be a previously unknown relative.
Edwin SANDYS Esquire to Elizabeth MOORE, with Revd Thomas Aldwell MOORE named.
Basil's parents were Edwin SANDYS and Catherine ALDWELL, so there must be a family link somewhere.

This is exciting!

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« Reply #44 on: Thursday 20 September 18 22:45 BST (UK) »
1822 signs marriage articles - Is this the Marriage Articles of 1824 that your cousin is referring to??

I suppose she might have been, but I think this must be a previously unknown relative.
Edwin SANDYS Esquire to Elizabeth MOORE, with Revd Thomas Aldwell MOORE named.
Basil's parents were Edwin SANDYS and Catherine ALDWELL, so there must be a family link somewhere.

This is exciting!

Philip


Well that is from Grantor index K-Z 1822-1824 and there is only that one for 1824!! 

None for 1822!
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