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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #72 on: Sunday 17 March 19 15:45 GMT (UK) »
Up to date chapter in "The origins of the Angle Saxons " suggests that he was very dark skinned.But, after all so what?
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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #73 on: Sunday 17 March 19 15:53 GMT (UK) »
Yes,Skoosh, the art of warfare skipped a generation.

Mind you I can see why,given his preferences ,he would run when hordes of hairy men wearing skirts and with  long flowing red hair were charging at him
with their handbags handy at the front.
Also he may have had  a date or two with Piers Gaviston or Hugh the
Despenser.
Poor devil Berkeley Castle!
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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #74 on: Sunday 17 March 19 15:58 GMT (UK) »
Why can't I get this thread to "un-notify" me of replies, please? I've tried a couple of times ... but it keeps coming back, as does one other.
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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #75 on: Monday 18 March 19 00:14 GMT (UK) »
Up to date chapter in "The origins of the Angle Saxons " suggests that he was very dark skinned.But, after all so what?
But we are told that Angles when taken to,Rome were described as Angels because of their fair skin and fair hair.
So who,is or was kidding who?
I liked that story at school!
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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #76 on: Wednesday 20 March 19 21:38 GMT (UK) »
The Angles taken to Rome around 200AD.
Cheddar man around 8000BC at the latest. During that 8000 or so years there was plenty of time for people of a different ethnicity to live in this island.
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« Reply #77 on: Sunday 22 September 19 13:52 BST (UK) »
While I agree with the comments about lack of serious scientific content in the programme, I do find these forensic reconstructions fascinating. Looking at a heap of bones, or even a well preserved skull, I find it impossible to visualise the living person. I'm sure there is some artistic licence in the finer details but the basic anatomy is fairly well understood, so I believe the general proportions are accurate. One thing we will probably never know is whether they shaved or had a haircut, or had tattos all over their faces, earrings, or other piercings like many modern day hunter/gatherers . . .  :-\

Like a lot of our TV output, it was 15 minutes of interesting information squeezed into an hour  ::)

What does that matter if some people think they have evidence that the person being studied had blue eyes? What does it all mean ? Whatever one likes it seems.
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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #78 on: Sunday 22 September 19 13:57 BST (UK) »
The eyes and skin tone immediately reminded me of this photo -  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_Girl

Lots of Near Eastern people have pale eyes.

Wasn't that something to do with 1) The Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem, and 2) Kidnappings by Arab raiders along the south west coast of England?

I thought that was the Vikings.
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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #79 on: Sunday 22 September 19 16:57 BST (UK) »
The eyes and skin tone immediately reminded me of this photo -  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_Girl

Lots of Near Eastern people have pale eyes.

Wasn't that something to do with 1) The Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem, and 2) Kidnappings by Arab raiders along the south west coast of England?

I thought that was the Vikings.
Probably, and many other raiding groups
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Re: Cheddar Man's DNA
« Reply #80 on: Sunday 22 September 19 23:19 BST (UK) »
The eyes and skin tone immediately reminded me of this photo -  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afghan_Girl

Lots of Near Eastern people have pale eyes.

Wasn't that something to do with 1) The Crusader Kingdom of Jerusalem, and 2) Kidnappings by Arab raiders along the south west coast of England?

I thought that was the Vikings.
Barbary Pirates from what is Morocco actually occupied Lundy Island in the 17th century. In 1640 it was estimated 3000-5000 English people were kept captive in Algiers alone

https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryUK/HistoryofEngland/Barbary-Pirates-English-Slaves/

As to why some people in Afghanistan, northern Pakistan and India are lighter skinned and blue eyed, that may simply reflect some ancient common Indo-European origins.