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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 17:53 GMT (UK) »
the certs as noted by ciderdrinker on the other thread which should help you go further back

marriage
Michael Lee sept qtr 1870 Bedwellty vol 11a pg 131

birth reg
Mary Ann Lee dec qtr 1870 Bedwellty vol 11a pg 87

You can get pdfs of births & copies of marriage certs from the GRO, pdfs being cheaper. Don't order
from other sites as they will be vastly more expensive.
https://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/certificates/default.asp

You should also check the 1901 & 1911 census entries for Michael in Merthyr Tydfil to see varying ages & places of birth.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWX4-WHT

Newspaper article about his sad death
http://newspapers.library.wales/view/4000640/4000647/68/
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 18:21 GMT (UK) »
Thank you Osprey

That's really helpful and I've ordered those certificates. I'm led to believe that this might be Michael Lee:

1901

10, White Row, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales
Michal Lee Head Married Male 50 1851 Monmouthshire, Labourer Iron Works
Hannah Lee Wife Married Female 40 1861Pontypool,
Ellen Lee Daughter Single Female 1 1900 Merthyr

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 18:32 GMT (UK) »
1911 4 White Row Merthyr Tydfil, Merthyr Tydfil, Glamorganshire, Wales

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 19:37 GMT (UK) »
think you may need to remove the 1911 - the copyright rules are different. You can link to the free one as I did in my previous post.

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 19:42 GMT (UK) »
think you may need to remove the 1911 - the copyright rules are different. You can link to the free one as I did in my previous post.

Interesting though that he's changed his place of birth to Cork, Ireland

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 19:59 GMT (UK) »
have you looked at the actual census, rather than just the transcription? There is extra info on, like length of marriage and how many children born and still alive. It could help you find their marriage. I don't think it's the one in Swansea as that's a distance away from where they were living and there is a Michael Lee born in Swansea around 1864 who could be that groom. Although, there's always the possibility that they didn't marry, maybe Hannah was already married to someone else.

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Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 20:19 GMT (UK) »
have you looked at the actual census, rather than just the transcription? There is extra info on, like length of marriage and how many children born and still alive. It could help you find their marriage. I don't think it's the one in Swansea as that's a distance away from where they were living and there is a Michael Lee born in Swansea around 1864 who could be that groom. Although, there's always the possibility that they didn't marry, maybe Hannah was already married to someone else.

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I'll look again - good fun this  ;D

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 20:27 GMT (UK) »
have you looked at the actual census, rather than just the transcription? There is extra info on, like length of marriage and how many children born and still alive. It could help you find their marriage. I don't think it's the one in Swansea as that's a distance away from where they were living and there is a Michael Lee born in Swansea around 1864 who could be that groom. Although, there's always the possibility that they didn't marry, maybe Hannah was already married to someone else.

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Hi

The only really interesting additional bits are:

married
marriage 16 years
2 children born, 2 alive

David
labourer, out of work

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Re: The elusive Michael Lee
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 13 February 18 20:35 GMT (UK) »
There is a marriage recorded for Michael Lee:

Dec Q, 11a, 1436, Swansea, Glam

potential brides - Hannah Harry, Annie Sweeney