Great Grandfather born in Jamaica

[CaroleW]

He died 1923 Glamorgan

Who did he marry and when/where as I can't see any marriage entry on freebmd

[KC83]

Hi Carole,
I have search high and low for a marriage between him and my great grandmother to no avail, She was Margaret Ellen Harris 1891, Neath Glamorgan. She was previously married in 1910 to a Philip Robinson. James and Margaret's 1st child was born in 1915. On James's death certificate she uses the name Margaret Clunis, but I do not think they ever married, which is a shame and makes my research a little more difficult.
Kind regards
KC83

[CaroleW]

I saw the Clunis/Harris births.  If she only married Robinson in 1910 and he was still alive then she could not have married James.  Divorce back then was mainly for the rich.

Given that James died in 1923 - no marriage means no fathers name from a marriage cert

[Jool]

Adding a link to a previous post on this person, just to help those searching and to avoid duplication of information already found.

Threads merged.

[BushInn1746]

Hi Mark,

It would definitely be handy to know when J.E.Clunis arrived, He must have arrived sometime between the 1901 census and 1911 census, as i have found him living in Godregraig, Wales in the 1911 census, but have not found him in any other census's.

Cheers

Kris

Hello Kris

Amended: Where your family line stems from the Clunis & Harris parents, have you seen the information on the Child's Full Birth Certificate?

I'm not saying it will be the golden nugget, but one never knows and it might be useful to see what their address / occupation was, their marital status if given, etc?

One snippet can lead to finding another snippet, sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

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Attachment

Birth 1915
Iris L. Clunis, Mother Harris, Registration District of Pontardawe

Deaths 1915
Iris L Clunis, Age 0, Registration District of Pontardawe

Burial location given in the attachment.

1911 Census
Appears to show that James Clunis got has British Residency status from his Parents, seems he had British parentage?

Mark

[Lola5]

My grandfather was born 1870 in Kingston Jamaica. His father was in the army stationed there. It may be the same with your relative.
Try army birth records.
From his birth cert there you can see what regiment his father was in.

[KC83]

Thanks All, for your information!
Mark I got really excited by resident by British Parentage on 1911 census, but I'm not entirely sure what this means.. Intially I thought his parents or one of them could have been British, then I was told that this could have been stated because Jamaica was a British Colony, which if this is the case does not really help with my research. Thanks Lola, I could possibly try this avenue, of research, it is not something I have thought to try!
Kind regards
KC83

[BushInn1746]

Thanks All, for your information!
Mark I got really excited by resident by British Parentage on 1911 census, but I'm not entirely sure what this means.. Intially I thought his parents or one of them could have been British, then I was told that this could have been stated because Jamaica was a British Colony, which if this is the case does not really help with my research. Thanks Lola, I could possibly try this avenue, of research, it is not something I have thought to try!
Kind regards
KC83

Hello

From the 1911 Census, I took that to mean, one or both James Clunis parents were British.

So likely no Naturalisation record?

Jamaica records on one web-site were described as Select, which often means that not all are online, only those selected so far.

So perhaps his Birth might be in a Jamaica Presbyterian Register and perhaps not online?

The Kingston Jamaica Civil Register (seems to be online).

Prison Record 1919
Religion Presby. General information suggests Presbyterians went from Britain (early half 19th Century) mainly Scotland to Jamaica, so a British parent possible.

Also another point, James Clunis was let out before serving all of his short sentence. Interesting comment re S of S.

S of S usually means Secretary of State, so either under a Law/Act passed by government (e.g. good behaviour), or perhaps Clunis was released by special permission by the S of S? I wonder which it meant.

Mark

[KC83]

Thanks Mark,
That sound interesting, I really need to take more notice of the little details on the records I look at, I had no idea what the s of s meant on the prison record, so it looks likely that he was released for good behaviour then. I will also have a look at the history of presbyterians, perhaps I can narrow down on the Presbyterian churches in Kingston at that time, it might give me more of an idea of the area he may have been born in, cheers
KC83