Author Topic: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa  (Read 3897 times)

Offline heywood

  • RootsChat Honorary
  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 40,868
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 12:07 GMT (UK) »
The registration district would be Driffield

There is a death for John Pinder in 1843 aged 44 yrs.

He is probably John Pinder married to Alice and living in Kilham in 1841 1214/23/9
Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,974
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 12:40 GMT (UK) »
The registration district would be Driffield

There is a death for John Pinder in 1843 aged 44 yrs.

He is probably John Pinder married to Alice and living in Kilham in 1841 1214/23/9

Yes, i have found him, also an image of his gravestone, confirming his wife was Alice.
But no John in his nineties.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,974
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 12:51 GMT (UK) »
There's a burial on 3 Dec 1823 for a John Pinder age 74, looks like the one born in 1749.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Offline StevieSteve

  • RootsChat Aristocrat
  • ******
  • Posts: 1,679
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 13:09 GMT (UK) »
Wouldn't the tithe map pinpoint the farm pretty exactly?

EDIT: Oops ruskie beat me to it
Middlesex: KING,  MUMFORD, COOK, ROUSE, GOODALL, BROWN
Oxford: MATTHEWS, MOSS
Kent: SPOONER, THOMAS, KILLICK, COLLINS
Cambs: PRIGG, LEACH
Hants: FOSTER
Montgomery: BREES
Surrey: REEVE


Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,974
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 14:00 GMT (UK) »
Where did John snr get his property from, perhaps he was left it by a relative or it came through his wife's family. Maybe mentioned in an earlier will which describes it more clearly.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,974
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 14:09 GMT (UK) »
The marriage record of John snr to Jane Beilby (sic) describes him as a carpenter and spells his name Pindar.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,974
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #15 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 14:49 GMT (UK) »

Herein is what I know about John Pinder.
May have been born & Baptized on the 29th July in Snaith, Yorkshire .
Documents have him as John Pindar).

Married 11 Dec. in Kilham to Jane Beilby (1725-1804)
Had three sons & 3 daughters;
John     (1749-1843) Named in will as an executor. Also named as the eldest son in the Will
William (1752-1826) Named in will as an executor
Robert (1758-1830)
Mary    (1760-1844) Married Stephen Bennison named in Will)
Jane     (1761-1796)
Ann     (1765-1766)


Ann Pinder is mentioned in the will (written 1785) so cannot have died as an infant. She gets a guinea like her two sisters and brother Robert. She is not described as wife of anyone so assume she is still single at the date of the will.
There is a marriage of an Ann Pinder in Kilham on 7 Aug 1794, she is described as daughter of John Pinder the elder, farmer. The bridegroom is John Sharp of Kilham bachelor and farmer. John Sharp signs, Ann makes her mark. witnesses Stephen Bennison and John Pinder, both witnesses sign. Marriage by licence granted by A Hobson, surrogate.
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Online LizzieL

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 7,974
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #16 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 15:05 GMT (UK) »
John and Ann Sharp had a son Robert in 1795 but he died shortly after. Then another son George born and bapt on 2nd May and died and buried on 3rd May 1797. Ann died on 10th May and was buried on 12th May - very sad.

John Sharp remarried in 1805
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

Offline StephenCND

  • RootsChat Extra
  • **
  • Posts: 60
  • Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk
    • View Profile
Re: What are the odds of me being able to find what was my Great-Great-Great-Grandpa
« Reply #17 on: Tuesday 20 March 18 15:09 GMT (UK) »
You raised questions more than I have answers to!  Lol.   The date of birth, and location for John Pindar Sr (1716/Snaith), is pretty iffy. I cannot track the source at this point.. His death (1797) I am pretty confident with. That Will pretty much confirms the whole Pinder tree after that point. But I cannot find anything regarding his birth date or place. There is another John Pindar from Snaith, that may or may not be his father.. but I do not want to check that out at this point..

How did John Pindar Sr. get the land.. inherited from father or wife, I do not know.
If I have not seen all the baptisms and burial entries in the actual parish register?:  Actually, I did not know they existed and where until yesterday..  And I'm still not sure how to get to them ..
"Have you found the son John, born 1749, died 1843 in the 1841 Census?"  I find nothing for the 1841 census. Most hits I get are for West Yorkshire.
I'm digging into the leads everyone so generously provided, but I have  question regarding one of them provided by Ruskie: You mentioned "tithe" maps.. where would I find them and are they accessible?