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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 24 March 18 01:38 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Skoosh. Name variations are interesting. John Hall Hindmarsh's gt.gt.grandfather as a signatory to the Association Oath Roll for Alnwick in 1696 signed his own name using the spelling Hindmarsh. This was at a time when Parish and other records variously spelt his name Hymers, Hyndmarsh, Hindmers, and Hindmeres. Jo

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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 24 March 18 08:59 GMT (UK) »
Jo, this building is not a tenement with entry via a common-close, these are town houses which apparently have been sub-divided, a flat comprising a "floor" & very posh too, they must have had a few bob!

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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 24 March 18 09:48 GMT (UK) »
This is the 1837 Perth Post Office Directory.
The tenants are all professional people or living on private means.
According to the censuses each house has one or two servants.
No. 2 Athole Street is the large town house at the corner of Rose Terrace with the entrance in Athole Street.

1837/38 Perth Directory
Malcolm, William, M.D, 2 Athole Street
McFarlane, Dr. 1 Rose terrace
McFarlane, Dr. Henry B. 1 Rose terrace
Henderson, Dr. William, 2, Rose terrace
Beatson, David, of Kirkpottie, 3, Rose terrace
Beatson, Thomas, of Mawhill, 3, Rose terrace
Cleland, Mrs. 4, Rose terrace
Faichney, Mrs, 4, Rose terrace
More, Alexander, collector of customs, 4 Rose terrace
Ross, Captain James, 5, Rose terrace
Ross, William, writer, 5, Rose terrace
Morison, David, 8 Rose terrace
Dick, Captain, 9, Rose terrace
Whitehead, Mrs, 9, Rose terrace
Cornfute, Mrs. Andrew, 10, Rose terrace
Ballingall, Mrs. 11, Rose terrace
Rintoul, George, haberdasher, 11, Rose Terrace
Whitson, Miss, 12, Rose terrace
Halket, Miss, 13, Rose terrace
Faichney, Miss, 14, Rose terrace
Foggo, David, teacher, 14, Rose terrace
Foggo, Miss, teacher, 14, Rose terrace
Butter, Miss H. 15, Rose terrace
Chalmers, Mrs. 16, Rose terrace
Davidson, Andrew, writer, 16, Rose terrace
Davidson, Dr. 16, Rose terrace
Butter, Mrs. 17, Rose terrace
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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 24 March 18 10:10 GMT (UK) »
Looks like his daughters were teachers too.

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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 24 March 18 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Skoosh- ' they must have had a few bob' . John Hall Hindmarsh's brother William in Alnwick became seriously rich by branching out into other businesses as well as the family business of tanning  but I am not sure about JHH. Reading about the Perth Academy  I see that up until 1881 teachers were still paid separately and collected their share of tuition fees directly from students in their classes. As well as his work at the Academy JHH had private students, boarders, he performed in various places in Northumberland and Scotland and he had published at least 6 books on Elocution so he was doing his best to keep the wolf from the door while pursuing his passion.

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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 24 March 18 22:54 GMT (UK) »
Buckhyne - Thank you very much for the latest advts. I had not seen these. I don't know a great deal about the older daughters, Isabella Hindmarsh  & Sarah Marshall Hindmarsh. According to Mrs. Oliphant they were known as ' the fair maids of Perth' According to one report Sarah( by then in a 2nd marriage to Henry Charles Barney)  died of alcoholic poisoning but I haven't verified. The two youngest children Marshall Kirkland  Hindmarsh ( one of his descendants was Ian Fleming ' Bond' and another Johnny Hindmarsh a racing car driver) and Jane Ann Sophia Hindmarsh have been easier to follow. Jane married John Tulloch a well known theologian and Mrs. Oliphant's ' A Memoir of the Life of John Tulloch , D.D. L.L.D. ' available online has been useful.
Back to JHH  He is quite a man to keep track of.Apart from his childhood and 20s in Alnwick the next  town he lived longest in was Perth where he lived for 15 years. Even within towns he seems constantly on the move. I'm not sure how long he lived at 4 Rose Terrace but in a very public spat he had with Bailie Andrew Buist - Perthshire Courier, 17th & 24th Feb. 1831  it seems he was living at Barossa Place. These latest advts. - show that  between 1831 & 1833 they have been in King's Place and 1833 have moved to ' Academy- House, St. Leonard's Bank'. Any information about these locations is welcome.

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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #15 on: Monday 26 March 18 11:30 BST (UK) »


Barossa Place is next door to Rose Terrace both of which are adjacent to the North Inch


Kings Place & St. Leonards Bank are both adjacent to the South Inch
There are 10 substantial villas in St Leonards Bank.


Nos 1&2 is now a hotel, nos 9 & 10 used to be the Railway club & RASC club but are now converted into Flats.
The Parklands Hotel 2 St Leonards Bank, Perth


Kings Place is the left foreground with South Inch on the right


This advert shows the size of the house which the Hindmarsh family rented


Professor Anderson died December, 1846. House for sale


The furniture which the Hindmarsh family would have used

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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 26 March 18 21:04 BST (UK) »
Waking up on the other side of the world it was great to find all this information that you have posted, Buckhyne- thank you.  I have noted your research technique ( I'm still learning ) of tracking Professor Anderson mentioned in the earlier advt.
The Hindmarsh family had moved to St. Andrews by 1840. I will assume for now that they remained at Academy House, St. Leonards Bank 1833- 1840 but it won't surprise me to find they moved again within Perth!  Thank you for your help. Jo ( New Zealand)

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Re: Perth 1825 - does 'floor' mean house?
« Reply #17 on: Wednesday 28 March 18 10:30 BST (UK) »
some more timeline






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