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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #99 on: Monday 12 August 19 09:04 BST (UK) »
My pleasure Forfarian.

The address could well be 57 Balvenie Street.

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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #100 on: Monday 12 August 19 09:15 BST (UK) »
Forfarian I have just had a look at the 1901 Census and Janet Leslie is aged 22 living at 57 Balvenie Street, Dufftown.

Also listed is her father Alexander Leslie - aged 59
Her Mother - Isabella Leslie - aged 51
Her sister   - Mary Leslie - aged 20
Her sister   - Christina Leslie - aged 13
Her sister   - Florence Leslie - aged 7

Hope this helps clinch it for you.

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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #101 on: Monday 12 August 19 15:05 BST (UK) »
Thanks, yes, I had that census, which is why the address on the birth clinches it. She had another illegitimate child at the same address in 1910.
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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #102 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 21:43 BST (UK) »
Hi! Forfarian
'William was born in 1910, mother Helen/Nellie Bain. Gladys was born in 1915, mother Jemima Isabella Bain. Does that not mean that William and Gladys were cousins, not uncle and niece?'
Sorry but the above is not quite right. It is as I said - my grandmother was Jane 'Jeanie' Wallace Bain.


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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #103 on: Tuesday 13 August 19 23:16 BST (UK) »
All very confusing!

William Tennant Bain was the half brother of Jane/Jeanie Wallace Bain                                     
therefore he was the half uncle of her daughter Gladys Davidson Bain
therefore he was the half great-uncle of mrmac

John Myron was the son of Helen/Ellen/Nellie Bain
therefore he was the half cousin of Gladys Davidson Bain
therefore he was half first cousin once removed to mrmac

Alan is the son of John Myron
therefore he is half second cousin to mrmac

Kirsty is the granddaughter of John Myron
therefore she is half second cousin once removed to mrmac
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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #104 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 01:01 BST (UK) »
hi Forfarian  my father John Myron on his birth certificate only shows Ellen Bain as his mother, no named father ,my mother informed me that Ellen Bain was his mother and a farmer named Morris Myron was his father I assumed that William Tennant was his older brother and Janet Bain his sister I believe there was other siblings it was a very fecund family thats for sure..

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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #105 on: Wednesday 14 August 19 09:06 BST (UK) »
Reply #2 on this thread shows Morris Myron's signature on the birth certificate of John Myron.
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Re: Ellen / Helen Bain
« Reply #106 on: Sunday 17 March 24 20:25 GMT (UK) »
Kirsty

Ellen Bain died in 1963 in Dover - and her probate is in favour of her son, William Tennant Bain

Hope this is of help

If you want to get in touch I will give you anything else I have found

Cheers

Anna

PS I have messaged you on Ancestry on this subject

McGrory, Milne, Mulvenny (or Mulveny), McKinlay, Cairns, Allan, McLean, Cassney (or Kessney).