Ellen / Helen Bain

[Forfarian]

The illegitimate birth of Barbara Helen Smith, mother was a Janet Leslie.

Monica, I think this Janet might be one of mine. Can you tell me anything else about her?

[MonicaL]

Hi Forfarian

I didn't do any further searches on who Janet Leslie was unfortunately. She came up as you can see as the mother of a Barbara Helen Smith, with some of the similar names we were looking for re Helen Bain.

Monica 

[Forfarian]

I didn't do any further searches on who Janet Leslie was unfortunately. She came up as you can see as the mother of a Barbara Helen Smith, with some of the similar names we were looking for re Helen Bain.

I wondered if you had viewed the birth certificate and might be able to tell me the address where Barbara was born, and her DoB.

[aymnz]

Hi again Mrmac , found this   When Gladys Davidson Bain was born on April 26, 1915, her mother, Jane, was 21. She married William Henry McSteen in 1943 in Croydon, Surrey, England. They had two children during their marriage. She died on July 23, 1996, in Croydon, Surrey, England, at the age of 81. it appears that Ellen Bain was your great grandmother  ,William Tennant was your great uncle ,John Myron (Bain ) my father, was your great uncle and Janet Bain your grandmother  , we are second  cousins and Kirsty would be third cousin.

[aymnz]

When Jane 'Jeanie' Wallace Bain was born on December 18, 1893, her mother, Ellen, was 21. She had one daughter in 1915. She died on November 11, 1964, at the age of 70.
Family Relationships
Children

    Gladys Davidson Bain

Jane 'Jeanie' Wallace Bain
Parents
Unknown Father
Ellen 'Hellen' 'Nellie'

[Forfarian]

Alan, you and mrmac are first cousins once removed, and Kirsty and mrmac are first cousins twice removed, not third cousins.

[dowdstree]

Hi Forfarian I had a few spare credits for SP so I have attached the birth for Barbara Helen Smith.

Dorrie

[aymnz]

Thanks forfarian ,it gets a bit confusing about cousins ,the whole saga about the Bain family was a complete surprise to me, I had no ,or very little , knowledge about my Fathers family ,all I knew was that he had an brother and a sister nothing about Ellen and her children born out of wedlock , oh well thats life who are we to judge ,thanks again...

[Forfarian]

Thank you, Dorrie.

If that address is 57 Balvenie Street, it clinches the identification of Janet Leslie with the one in my tree, so that's another twig to add.