Peagum family

[alexreg]

Your links don’t work- they just go to ancestry search page so I don’t know what you are linking to unfortunately.
However, there is a George Peagam born abt 1839, South Molton, Devon in the Navy in 1861.
I can only see him in censuses 1841 , 1851 and 1861.

That's odd the links don't work. Indeed, this is the George Peagam I was referring to though. Do you think he is a candidate worth investigating further? It is odd how he disappears from the records after 1861, unless he died young, and the death record is not easy to find... of course, we'd need some sort of evidence tying him to a daughter named Emily.

[alexreg]

I've spotted at least two other 19th C George Peagam's from Devon in the records, but I just noticed there's an 1875 Royal Hospital Chelsea Pensioner Admissions and Discharges record for a George Peagam, as well an 1890 London Electoral register for a George Peagam living in Strand.

https://www.ancestry.com/search/?name=George_Peagum&birth=1839&location=3257.3250&priority=english

Even if these records don't match the 1839 George Peagam from Devon, perhaps the lack of post-1861 records could be explained by him being in Ireland? I'd still really like to get hold of the MyHeritage record in the previous post that mentions a George Pegum born in Limerick in Oct 1839, and his son John Thomas born in Limerick in 1867, among other siblings. One of the birthplaces could possibly be wrong, and they could refer to the same person. (The Peagam vs. Pegum spellings don't bother me, since they would presumably be pronounced the same.)

[JoannaP]

Hello

I do have a subs and have some info for you. Would you like to email me and I’ll reply? It’s jpegum and then the gmail bit

[alexreg]

I just found a Patrick Joseph Peacum born in Limerick in 1872, to a John Peacum (the purported name of Emily's father). Here's the record on Ancestry.com:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61039&h=154528349&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3606&_phstart=successSource

I wonder if Emily could be his older sister. The register seems rather tatty, so I'm wondering if her birth record was lost even!

[dathai]

http://www.rootschat.com/links/01lvz/

[Sinann]

I just found a Patrick Joseph Peacum born in Limerick in 1872, to a John Peacum (the purported name of Emily's father). Here's the record on Ancestry.com:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61039&h=154528349&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3606&_phstart=successSource

I wonder if Emily could be his older sister. The register seems rather tatty, so I'm wondering if her birth record was lost even!

Not everyone has a subscription to Ancestry.
When you say Limerick do you mean Limerick Parish and can you give us the date so we can find it on the NLI site https://registers.nli.ie/

[heywood]

Mary Peacan b 1866 - same parents

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03453/2267797.pdf

Marriage 1866 Nenagh quarter 1 vol 3 pg 622

John Peacan and Bridget Ryan are on the same page

[alexreg]

I just found a Patrick Joseph Peacum born in Limerick in 1872, to a John Peacum (the purported name of Emily's father). Here's the record on Ancestry.com:

https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?indiv=1&dbid=61039&h=154528349&tid=&pid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=bLh3606&_phstart=successSource

I wonder if Emily could be his older sister. The register seems rather tatty, so I'm wondering if her birth record was lost even!

Not everyone has a subscription to Ancestry.
When you say Limerick do you mean Limerick Parish and can you give us the date so we can find it on the NLI site https://registers.nli.ie/

Sorry, I forgot about the NLI site...

[alexreg]

Mary Peacan b 1866 - same parents

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/birth_returns/births_1868/03453/2267797.pdf

Marriage 1866 Nenagh quarter 1 vol 3 pg 622

John Peacan and Bridget Ryan are on the same page

Very interesting, thank you. Do you think 'Peacan' was just a mistranscription of 'Peagum'? Also, may I ask you how you found those records? When I entered "John/Mary Peacan/Peagum" on the irishgenealogy.ie search (https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/), I found no results for any of the terms.

Anyway, I think this is a good match. Although the record is from Portroe in County Tipperary, this town seems quite near Limerick, and the record clearly indicates John Peacan/Peagum was from Limerick.

I just did a search among my 23andMe DNA Relatives, and lo and behold, a bunch of relatives who listed 'Limerick' as a place of their ancestors and 'Ryan' as a surname turn up! (No Peagum's, but this is still quite telling I think.)

Now, presuming all this is correct, how can we explain the lack of a record for Emily? I'm suspecting either a record that hasn't survived, or one of the Peagum girls we already know about were in fact Emily. Perhaps Emily was a confirmation name, or a name adopted later, since she didn't like her birth name? Just a conjecture.

So far I have:
* Mary Anne, b. 1868
* John Thomas, b. 1870
* Patrick Joseph, b. 1872
* Clara, b. 1875

Since Emily had her first child in 1887, one would expect her to be older than Thomas at the very least, if not the eldest. Then again, it's possible to identify her with Mary Anne, if she later adopted the name Emily/Emilia.