Samuel family in Canada mystery

[ryan37]

Thanks will keep searching

Ryan

[ryan37]

found 2 new records for William Samuel on ancestry

US SOCIAL SECURITY APPLICATIONS AND CLAIMS INDEX 1936-2007
William Mcdonald Samuel
Birth 12 jan 1883
Scotland ,UK
Claim date - 12 mar 1947
ssn 382031053
notes -  19 Aug 1977 , name listed as William McDonald Samuel


ALSO FOUND

US WORLD WAR 2 DRAFT REGESTRATION CARDS 1942

this has a lot of info I cant read but maybe somebody can find it and check it out

basic info is

William Mc Samuel

male

residence age 60

birth date 12 jan 1882

residence date 1942

residence place Detriot MICHIGAN USA

This is definitely him as it says peterhead place of birth


Can anyone explain what these records are and what they mean?

also does this information help us trace where he might have died or any other info related to his life etc


ryan

[*Sandra*]

That would have made life easier had we known William had a middle name.

WW2 Draft does not mean William served - otherwise known as "The Old Mans Draft"

https://www.newberry.org/old-mans-draft

The U.S., Social Security Applications and Claims Index would indicate a claim was made in 1947 - it doesn't say life claim so I wouldn't think it was a death claim - could be he retired about then 

The SSDI (Social Security Death Index) was not up and running until about 1963 so he might not show on that which could mean he passed away between 1947 - 1963.

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1202535

Michigan Death Index -

https://www.familysearch.org/search/collection/1675357

Try Find a Grave to see if he is listed

https://www.findagrave.com/

Who is Mrs Chillis ? Is that a relative ?

Sandra

[ryan37]

Thanks Sandra I have no info on that lady? Fascinating what is the info at 1977 on the claim form?

Ryan

[*Sandra*]

I think that means the information was just added to that index in 1977

Sandra

[ryan37]

Many thanks Sandra please excuse my incapable efforts I’m New to roots and don’t know about linking posts etc

Ryan

[*Sandra*]

More questions than answers but also bear in mind that although we found a marriage record for Helen Samuel to Robert McIntosh 23 November 1928 in York Ontario.  The death certificate of John McDonald in Toronto, had a relative names Helen McArthur.  So did Robert Mcintosh pass away ? Did Helen and Robert divorce ?  Is Helen McArthur, Helen Samuel McIntosh   

Sandra

[ryan37]

Starting to look like this could be the case , I will keep looking hopefully someone can find them

Thanks for your hard work

Ryan

[ryan37]

For the old mans record can you depict the writing so I can record the information please

Ryan