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Offline warpo

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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 26 April 18 08:25 BST (UK) »
Well, his birth certificate came this morning. Didn't know you can get them for £6 as a pdf now.

I was so excited....

What was the Cook all about....

Really excited....
Forgot my password, had to reset it....

Eventually got the PDF, opened it....

Really excited....

Name of Father....

A Bloomin Line for no father recorded.

I'll try to get the Marriage Cert and see if that helps, else i'm out of options.

Thanks for all your replies everyone.
Hides; Wilmore; Whitney; Laughton; Lambley; Bampton; Cox; Kirk; Major; Heathorn; Bailiss

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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 26 April 18 08:30 BST (UK) »
Sadly I suspect that, if he was born to an extramarital relationship, the naming of his true natural father is the least likely scenario on the marriage certificate.

More likely will be either a blank again, or the use of the deceased Mr Wilmore’s details (making things look straightforward if he also used surname Wilmore), or the use of Mr Whitney’s details (if he had brought him up).

If Mr Whitney had been the natural father one would have expected the parents to marry sooner than 1919.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 26 April 18 08:50 BST (UK) »
Hi

Do you actually have Mr Wilmore's death certificate and not just a handed-down date?

Ray

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« Reply #12 on: Thursday 26 April 18 09:03 BST (UK) »
Yes, where did Frederick Alexander Wilmore die?

I see that he joined the Lincolnshire Regt on 31 Aug 1914, aged 29, and was discharged medically unfit (due to displaced cartilage) on 30 November 1914.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 26 April 18 09:07 BST (UK) »
Hi

I think that there is a possibility that he lived on.

Poss marriage to Alice E, child C......
Anyone else spot them on 1939 in Glanford?

Ray
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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 26 April 18 09:09 BST (UK) »

. . . . . and Alice's surname is ?  :o
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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 26 April 18 09:13 BST (UK) »
Hmmm... no I think he died in the North Sea on 9 July 1915, according to GRO records of marine deaths.

Fred A Wilmore aged 30, born Canterbury, 2nd Engineer on the Yarmouth registered at Grimsby.

Died: North Sea, 9 July 1915, no cause stated.
Ayr: Barnes, Wylie
Caithness: MacGregor
Essex: Eldred (Pebmarsh)
Gloucs: Timbrell (Winchcomb)
Hants: Stares (Wickham)
Lincs: Maw, Jackson (Epworth, Belton)
London: Pierce
Suffolk: Markham (Framlingham)
Surrey: Gosling (Richmond)
Wilts: Matthews, Tarrant (Calne, Preshute)
Worcs: Milward (Redditch)
Yorks: Beaumont, Crook, Moore, Styring (Huddersfield); Middleton (Church Fenton); Exley, Gelder (High Hoyland); Barnes, Birchinall (Sheffield); Kenyon, Wood (Cumberworth/Denby Dale)

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« Reply #16 on: Thursday 26 April 18 09:15 BST (UK) »

Quite happy to knock that family off

Well done for finding that.

R
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Re: Strange middle name
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 26 April 18 09:19 BST (UK) »
I can see that widowed mother might have this child, but this would have her pregnant six months after her husband died. Obviously it is possible, but sounds less common.

"..My nanna and all her siblings had the surname Wilmore"

What second given names do the other children have.....any?

On the birth certificate, 1916, where and when was the birth....where and when was the birth registered....who was the informant.

Have you located a christening record for George b. 1916?
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