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tracing hawkins family
« on: Wednesday 25 April 18 19:31 BST (UK) »
Hi. My name is Dee Pearce. I am tracing the Hawkins family descended from Charles de Lacy Hawkins I am the great grandaughter Of Annie Matilda and Charles de Lacy through their daughter Daisy Kate.I understand Annie was landlady of a pub in Cowbridge Wales and would like to find out how long she was landlady for. Any information would be so much appreciated.

The only date i have found to go by is the 1911 Glamorgan Census.

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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 25 April 18 19:40 BST (UK) »
Hi Dee --- Welcome to Roots Chat.

Could you give approximate dates for your query please, it will help people to know which years they need to be searching.
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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 25 April 18 20:35 BST (UK) »
Hi and welcome to Rootschat, if I am correct Annie M Hawkins was a Widow in 1911 aged 52 b Bloomsbury, London with family ( all born Glamorganshire) at the Edmondes Arms, Cowbridge.( It is still a pub today in Cowbridge)
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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 25 April 18 20:58 BST (UK) »
Hi again, in 1901 census:-

Annie M Hawkins 42 Wife b Middlesex
Alice E 14
Charles De Lacy Hawkins 13
Frank L 12
Flora M 10
Daisy Kate 8
Frederick W 7
Annie L 5
Maud 4
Helen G 2
All children b Cardiff
Residing at Maendy, Llanblethain, Bridgend
Census ref RG13/5048/14/20
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PS you may already have this but Annie M was not a Publican in 1901 above, it was in the hands of a Michael Fitzgerald aged 41 and family.
Charles D was a Railway Engine Driver in 1891 and looks to be the Charles D Hawkins aged 51 b St Pancras Married occ Railway Engine Driver with a Henry Mace & family in 1901 Cardiff,The couple married as Annie Matilda Bright to Charles De Lacy Hawkins March qtr 1885 Cardiff 11a 285
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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 26 April 18 00:09 BST (UK) »
Hi,

Charles D Hawkins aged 51 b St Pancras Married occ Railway Engine Driver with a Henry Mace & family in 1901 Cardiff

With Annie being a widow in 1911, there is this death from FreeBMD:

Hawkins, Charles De Lacy; Age 54; December Qtr 1904; Cardiff Reg Dist; Volume 11a, Page 208.

Hope this helps.

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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 26 April 18 05:29 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat!

From the paper Western Mail 12 August 1916 there is this advertisent:

Public Houses

Edmondes Arms, Cowbridge - this compact
Double-licensed House to Let, on easy terms;
present tenant's hands 7 years. - Apply on the Premises,
or to Wm. Hancock and Co. (Limited), The Brewery,
Cardiff.


I take the line present tenant's hands 7 years to mean it was the same tenant for seven years to time of the advertisement, so that should be your relative?

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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 26 April 18 08:26 BST (UK) »
Welcome to Rootschat

There is a memorial stone in Holy Cross, Cowbridge churchyard for Annie and Helen Gertrude, go to num 107.  Grave also includes Charles De Lacey Hawkins d 1904 in 107 under name list. But seems he is not named on memorial.

http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/wal/GLA/Cowbridge/Cowbridge.Chyard.MI

Also probate to Maud Hawkings, spinster, on death of Annie in 1930. Annie died at 10 Cardiff Rd, which is the same street Edmondes Arms is located.  Google address for street view.

https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar/GetImgSrc?filePath=%2F1930%2FH%2F001488_hawkey_1930.Png

Others researching same family lines of Charles De Lacey Hawkins.

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=472594.0

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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 26 April 18 18:32 BST (UK) »
Hi again, did Daisy Kate die as Daisy Kate Pearce Dec qtr 1933 Pontypridd 11a 542 aged 41, but  I cannot locate a marriage to a Mr Pearce?
I can locate one possible to a William R Rolls?
Maud Hawkins was Head Elementary School Teacher in 1939
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Re: tracing hawkins family
« Reply #8 on: Friday 27 April 18 10:35 BST (UK) »
Re Hawkins family .Wow, Thankyou all for your very helpful replies. Its been an amazing response so quickly and has soved a few puzzles xx Dee