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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #45 on: Tuesday 01 November 05 11:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Would greatly appreciate a lookup for

"Cyril John Smith" (Private, Lincolnshire Regiment, Regiment No: 1845)

Family history says he was executed for going AWOL.

Also, in general, do you know if a death certificate for people killed during the war, either in action or by execution, is issued. My reason is that I have been unable to locate certificates for people known to have died in action.

Thanks,
Dave

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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #46 on: Tuesday 01 November 05 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Hi Dave,

There are a lot of Smiths as you can imagine, but none that seems to quite fit the bill.  So the likely ones are as follows.   There are few executions and the only possible one being John Smith of the 1 Loyal N Lancs.  The only Smith with the correct sounding Unit is - J Smith, Unit: 10 Lincolnshire sentenced to 10 years penal servitude.

If any of these seems likely, let me know and I'll give you the details.

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Jonathan
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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #47 on: Tuesday 01 November 05 19:09 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for the effort, but he was definately Cyril rather than John.

Since I posted the question, I got a copy of his Medal Card. This seems to imply he never saw action, as only the Silver War Badge is shown, but it was susequently wiithdrawn.
Maybe he was just dishonourably discharged in the UK.

If it helps, here is a clickable link to an image of his MIC.


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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #48 on: Tuesday 01 November 05 19:31 GMT (UK) »
Hello Jonathan,

I'm currently constructing a Bundy one-name study website.  I would appreciate a lookup for any Bundy's that may be listed as this would be an interesting addition should there be any listed.

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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #49 on: Tuesday 01 November 05 19:43 GMT (UK) »
Sorry Sue, no Bundys.

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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #50 on: Tuesday 01 November 05 19:47 GMT (UK) »
Dave

The only C Smith entries

C Smith, Unit: 12 Liverpool, Private, Desertion 19/4/16, 10 years penal servitude, location: Western Front

C Smith Unit: 14 Trench Mortar Bty, Driver, Desertion 16/1/18, 5 years penal servitude, location: ? (unstated)

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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #51 on: Tuesday 01 November 05 20:02 GMT (UK) »
Thanks anyway Jonathan,

Can't  say I'm glad there aren't any really though!!

It was kind of you to take the trouble to look and reply so speadily.

Sue
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Wilson - Coleorton Leicesershire/ Swadlincote Derbyshire.
Bundy - Ross Herefordshire/ Birmingham
Dugdale - Isle of Man

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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #52 on: Sunday 13 November 05 13:33 GMT (UK) »
Not a cheery subject I know,  but I'm happy to do  lookups for this resource - I found one of my lot in it who got 2 years hard labour for sleeping while on duty.

It covers death sentences passed by military courts of the British Army 1914-1924.  Most of those noted were not executed but served some other form of sentence.

The information provided is:

Soldiers Name, Unit, Rank, Date and Offence, Final Sentence, Location (theatre of war or city/country).  Some also include notes on next of kin, age, address, and type of offence.

Considering that some might find this information sensitive, if you'd like to PM your request, that's fine too.

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Jonathan

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Re: LOOKUP OFFER: Death Sentences British Army 1914-1924
« Reply #53 on: Sunday 13 November 05 13:37 GMT (UK) »
Hi Jonathan

I am seeking details of a Harry Hebb born circa 1884 who is reputed not to have returned from the 1914 - 18 war. Is it possible for you to check your records for me.

Thanks Davie