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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #306 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 11:11 GMT (UK) »
A Vincent Battista died on 4th February 1956

Elswick Burial
Entry 92640
8 February 1956
Vincent Battista
62 YEARS
105, St Lawrence Square, St Dominic's
Section U   
No 420
Remarks: 18 down 7 East

Evening Chronicle - Tuesday, February 7th 1956:

'BATTISTA, Newcastle, 8 Ord Street (late of Sycamore Street), on Feb 4th (in hospital), Aged 62 years, Vincent, beloved husband of the late Margaret, Interment Elswick Cemetery on Wednesday, 2.30 pm, leaving residence 2.10 pm.  Friends please meet at Cemetery.  R.I.P.'
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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #307 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 23:16 GMT (UK) »
The Soldiers Effects for Frank Spence (transcribed as Speuee ::) ) lists Sister & Sole Legatee Mrs Georgina Birmingham.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #308 on: Wednesday 13 February 19 23:34 GMT (UK) »
and there is a marriage Q4 1898 Wandsworth for a James BURMINGHAM and Georgina BATTISTA which is a possible?

The parish marriage record is on ancestry and says she was 20 and her father was John Battista, a tailor.
The witnesses both had the surname BURMINGHAM

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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #309 on: Thursday 14 February 19 00:07 GMT (UK) »
I think the photograph of the F Spence from the KOSB is perhaps a different man as he was a PoW, and F Spence of the Middx Regiment G/11713 has no other service No's listed (his medal card is under Frank Spencer)

His service record is online includes a list of relatives  ;D

Father G Battista Deceased
Mother EAE Battista Deceased

Siblings:
P Battista 40 Royal Navy
W Battista 22 Royal Navy
J Battista 20 Northumberland Fusiliers
Georgina Birmingham 37, Ram Square Wandsworth
L Spence, 37 34, 3 Norfolk Street, North Shields
E ?? Moralee. 34, City Road, Newcastle

MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.


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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #310 on: Thursday 14 February 19 00:18 GMT (UK) »
you beat me by a few mins Jomot :-)

Just to add to that if anyone searches for the record on ancestry
Frank Spence
regiment DukeofCambridge'sOwn (Middlesex) Regiment, Football Battalion
service no 11713

brings the record up top of the list

and the relatives list says no wife and no children

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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #311 on: Thursday 14 February 19 00:40 GMT (UK) »
Sorry  ;)

I haven't been able to add anything to this since the very early pages but have been trying to keep up - so apologies if I've missed something - but I don't think E Moralee is one I've seen before.

Looking again I think it could be EA Moralee, and although I may be going off on a completely unrelated tangent there is an Ethel Ann Moralee in Jesmond in 1911 born South Shields:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWMW-FJN

Baptism at St Hilda's, South Shields 4 Jan 1882 (born 14 Dec 1881), parents John & Annie Elizabeth

MORALEE, ETHEL ANNIE mmn MARSHALL - GRO Ref: 1882  M Quarter in OF SOUTH SHIELDS  Volume 10A  Page 662

If she's related I can't for the life of me figure out where or how!
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #312 on: Thursday 14 February 19 00:54 GMT (UK) »
35 pages and 310 replies, plus a few of my distant relatives popping in! When I first posted this, I never thought there'd be so much information on the Battista family or locating living descendants. Thanks to all who have contributed  ;D

I've managed to get my hands on some original birth, marriage and death indexes from Cassino (San Germano). Unfortunately, births only go from 1809 - 1865, marriages 1809 - 1849 and deaths 1809 - 1839. While this won't be helpful for Giovanni, there are a lot of records here pertaining to Giovanni's birth, all of his siblings and potentially cousins, aunts, uncles, parents.

I've uploaded it to Google Drive, here's the link: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1qBngJ6K-gRv-BVUu4z0ILk7eQb2dGHfm?usp=sharing

Moralee doesn't sound familiar to me, although, this thread is very long.
Battista
Lawson

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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #313 on: Thursday 14 February 19 01:10 GMT (UK) »
Whoever Miss/Mrs Moralee is, she is listed as a full-blood sister of Frank Vincent 'Spence'.  I'm hoping someone else can shed some light, or tell me I'm misreading it, as I'm mystified!

Ethel Annie Moralee's father petitioned for divorce due to her mother's alleged adultery with a John Edwin Starling.  I can't see any Battista connection.
MORGAN: Glamorgan, Durham, Ohio. DAVIS/DAVIES/DAVID: Glamorgan, Ohio.  GIBSON: Leicestershire, Durham, North Yorkshire.  RAIN/RAINE: Cumberland.  TAYLOR: North Yorks. BOURDAS: North Yorks. JEFFREYS: Worcestershire & Northumberland. FORBES: Berwickshire, CHEESMOND: Durham/Northumberland. WINTER: Durham/Northumberland. SNOWBALL: Durham.

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Re: Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]
« Reply #314 on: Thursday 14 February 19 01:15 GMT (UK) »
Wasn't there a sister called Elizabeth Ann?  There is a birth reg
Q4 1886  Tynemouth for Elizabeth Ann Battista, MMN Lawson

though I am struggling to find a marriage

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