Missing death index and certificate [Brickwall]

[c-side]

So disappointed - the only records for St. Augustine, Fenham held at Woodhorn are baptisms 1945-1983. 

So, if neither TWAS nor Woodhorn have the marriages it seems likely that they are still at the church.

Christine

[River Tyne Lass]

That is disappointing Christine, but I very much appreciate anyway that you were willing to help.  Thank you so much.

Yes, Boo I think the same as you re Lily not claiming if Frank Vincent Spence was really her husband.  Since his parents are recorded as Giovanni and Elizabeth Battista
and the siblings are the ones Vincent had I do tend to think this was Vincent.  It is all very mysterious!

[River Tyne Lass]

http://www.donmouth.co.uk/local_history/great_war_football/munitionette_players.html

Hey Sophie and Battista clan - I see there was a munitionette called Grace Battista in Newcastle who played football in charity matches during the Great War.

See below for details of matches played:

http://www.donmouth.co.uk/local_history/great_war_football/munitionettes.html

[battista]

http://www.donmouth.co.uk/local_history/great_war_football/munitionette_players.html

Hey Sophie and Battista clan - I see there was a munitionette called Grace Battista in Newcastle who played football in charity matches during the Great War.

See below for details of matches played:

http://www.donmouth.co.uk/local_history/great_war_football/munitionettes.html

Could be Grace Battista, daughter of Vincenzo, niece of Giovanni. She was born in 1897, seems to be the correct age?

[River Tyne Lass]

I have checked the GRO site and Grace's mmn was Armstrong, so would she not have been Antonio's daughter?

http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/cgi-bin/ML_search.cgi?year=1910&qtr=2&vol=10b&page=91&search=search

One thing I am wondering about the 1910 marriage of Francis Spence is that this is covered under the Marriage Locator website.  I wonder where the person got the records from since Tyne and Wear and Northumberland Archives don't hold this marriage record.  Might the person have actually gone to the Church to work their way through the registers, I wonder?

[c-side]

I don't think they use the church records.  There is some clever way of calculating the church from the GRO records.  It was once explained to me but was very complicated and I've forgotten how 

[Jomot]

The Marriage Locator site explains how they do it, and it seems they do view the registers:

"Each [volunteer] chooses a Registration District to work on, and visits the County Record Office..."

http://www.marriage-locator.co.uk/principles.html

[battista]

I have checked the GRO site and Grace's mmn was Armstrong, so would she not have been Antonio's daughter?

Vincenzo is married to Mary Jane Armstrong, Antonio is married to Cristina (Fancredi) D'Andrea.

[Love&Leaves]

Some more great work - thank you RTL, Christine et al 

Just to confirm Grace Battista is definitely Vincenzo's youngest daughter.  She worked at Elswick Munitions with her 3 of her sisters - Eliza, Lizzie & Marianna.  They all played for the football team!

"mmn" is mothers maiden name - Mary Jane was Mary Jane Armstrong.

Vincenzo's son Antonio married a Margaret Grace and their eldest was also called (Margaret) Grace known as Grace.