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Re: Royal family ethnicity estimates
« Reply #18 on: Saturday 26 August 23 12:54 BST (UK) »
There is a page on FTDNA that lists alleged/supposed Haplogroups based on external relatives that have tested

A popular search engine asking Prince Philips Haplogroup might find it

Kings & Queens of England or Great Britain

Edward IV (1442-1483) => J1c2c (mtDNA)
Richard III (1452-1485) => J1c2c (mtDNA)
James I (1566-1625) => R1b-L21 (Y-DNA)
Charles I (1600-1649) => T2 (mtDNA) ; R1b-L21 (Y-DNA)
Henrietta Maria of France (1609-1669) => H (mtDNA)
Charles II (1630-1685) => H (mtDNA) ; R1b-L21 (Y-DNA)
James II (1633-1701) => H (mtDNA) ; R1b-L21 (Y-DNA)
William III (1650-1702) => H (mtDNA)
George I (1660-1727) => T2 (mtDNA)
George III (1738-1820) => T2 (mtDNA)
Victoria (1819-1901) => H (mtDNA)
Edward VII (1841-1910) => H (mtDNA) R1b-U106 (Z305+) (Y-DNA)
Alexandra of Denmark (1844-1925) => T2 (mtDNA)
George V (1865-1936) => T2 (mtDNA) R1b-U106 (Z305+) (Y-DNA)
Edward VIII (1894-1972) => R1b-U106 (Z305+) (Y-DNA)
George VI (1895-1952) => R1b-U106 (Z305+) (Y-DNA)
Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh => H (mtDNA) ; R1b (Y-DNA)
Charles, Prince of Wales => R1b (Y-DNA)
Prince William, Duke of Cambridge => R30b (mtDNA) ; R1b (Y-DNA)

Kings & Queens of Scotland

James III (1451-1488) => U5b* (mtDNA)

Dear David, thanks for your help. I compared my GEDmatch with yours and once again I was convinced that I was right.
I have DNA matches with direct descendants of Queen Victoria. There is even a coincidence with a woman from France who had the Naryshkins in her family.
I am the great-grandson of Maria Nikolaevna Romanova.
It's hard to believe, but it's true.

My GEDmatch Kit - XH8065555

Largest segment = 9.7 cM

Total Half-Match segments (HIR) 17.5cM (0.489 Pct)
Estimated number of generations to MRCA = 5.2

2 shared segments found for this comparison.

154684 SNPs used for this comparison.

52.55 Pct SNPs are full identical

Comparison took 0.242.
CPU time used: 0.025.

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Re: Royal family ethnicity estimates
« Reply #19 on: Tuesday 29 August 23 18:33 BST (UK) »
I always thought that I was Anglo Welsh Canadian

Now DNA tells my roots are:-

Northern England
Ireland
Scotland
Italy
Welsh
Scandinavian
German
Belgian
French
Greek
Palestinian
Lebanese
Jordanian

I see no reason why the Royal Family should be much different, German, Greek, French, Dutch, and a smattering of English/Scotch and effectively Zero Welsh





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Re: Royal family ethnicity estimates
« Reply #20 on: Monday 11 September 23 10:56 BST (UK) »
The Bentinck's

William Bentinck 1708-1762 married Margaret Harley 1715-1785

Son, William Bentinck 1738-1809 married Dorothy Cavendish 1750-1794

Son, William Charles Cavendish-Bentinck 1780-1826 married Anne Wellesley 1788-1875

Son Charles William Frederick Cavendish-Bentinck 1817-1865 married Caroline Louise Burnaby 1832-1918

Daughter, Cecilia Nina Cavendish-Bentinck 1862-1938 married Claude George Bowes-Lyon 1855-1944

Daughter Elizabeth Bowes-Lyon 1900-2002 married George Albert Windsor 1895-1952 ( King George VI)

Daughter, Queen Elizabeth II

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A very interesting book covering the Bentinck family is

'A Right Royal Scandal: Two Marriage that changed history' by Joanne Major and Sarah Murden
Originally published in 2016.

Synopsis on Amazon.co.uk

Almost two books in one, A Right Royal Scandal recounts the fascinating history of the irregular love matches contracted by two successive generations of the Cavendish-Bentinck family, ancestors of the British Royal Family. The first part of this intriguing book looks at the scandal that erupted in Regency London, just months after the Battle of Waterloo, when the widowed Lord Charles Bentinck eloped with the Duke of Wellington s married niece. A messy divorce and a swift marriage followed, complicated by an unseemly tug-of-war over Lord Charles infant daughter from his first union. Over two decades later and while at Oxford University, Lord Charles eldest son, known to his family as Charley, fell in love with a beautiful gypsy girl, and secretly married her. He kept this union hidden from his family, in particular his uncle, William Henry Cavendish-Scott-Bentinck, 4th Duke of Portland, upon whose patronage he relied. When his alliance was discovered, Charley was cast adrift by his family, with devastating consequences. A love story as well as a brilliantly researched historical biography, this is a continuation of Joanne and Sarah s first biography, An Infamous Mistress, about the eighteenth-century courtesan Grace Dalrymple Elliott, whose daughter was the first wife of Lord Charles Bentinck. The book ends by showing how, if not for a young gypsy and her tragic life, the British monarchy would look very different today.

Anthony Magee