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Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« on: Sunday 27 May 18 03:25 BST (UK) »
I'm hoping someone on here has information in regards to George Randall who I think was born in Derby, England around 1823. He came to Australia where he married Ellen Janeway in 1850. George is my great grandfather and the story prior to his arrival here is a mystery although a distant relative of mine has found information regarding his parents, it doesn't tie in with the story that was handed down to my family by my grandfather, Walter (George's son). Any information would be greatly appreciated thanks.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #2 on: Sunday 27 May 18 04:28 BST (UK) »
Thanks so much for supplying me with such a great site for finding information,solidrock, I joined but haven't found the required information as yet, but will keep trying on there.


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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #3 on: Sunday 27 May 18 07:08 BST (UK) »

Can you be specific.

What is the point of difference between the family story...….and what other researchers have found.

SA BDM marriage
1850 4/194  RANDALL m.   George  JANEWAY  Ellen         @   Adelaide

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #4 on: Sunday 27 May 18 08:16 BST (UK) »
The information a distant cousin has found states that George’s father, George Randall (born 1788), was a hairdresser and perfumer of 12 Rotten Row, Derby, England, and his mother was Martha Augusta Randall. This information also included that my great grandfather, George, was born in 1828, but his marriage certificate states he was 27 when married to Ellen Janeway in 1850.

The story my grandfather told my dad was that his father’s (George) family were shipbuilders in Devon, England, and George sailed their ship to Australia and sold the ship and cargo when he got here. So either the information my cousin discovered is for a different George Randall or my great grandfather made up a good yarn.

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #6 on: Sunday 27 May 18 08:36 BST (UK) »
Family stories are very useful in researching your ancestors.

Can you list all the information on the marriage certificate please. There will not be much detail, but everything is useful. 

Can you list the names, birth dates and places of their children. 

Where and when did George RANDALL, and wife Ellen die?
 
Does the life of George and wife Ellen JANEWAY suggest that he would have money...from sale of ship. What work does George do? 

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #7 on: Sunday 27 May 18 09:05 BST (UK) »
Marriage certificate: Married November 30, 1850, Trinity Church, Adelaide. He was a labourer. They were married by licensed layman – James Farrell MA.

Just after they were married, George purchased land to farm and he built Dingley Dell, which he later lost in a card game to the poet, Adam Lindsay Gordon. After that he became a publican of a hotel in Mt Gambier, South Australia so he must have had some money from the sale of the ship and cargo. He died on November 5, 1889 and was buried on November 7 at Numurkha Cemetery, Victoria.

Ellen Janeway died June 05, 1905 at Kalgoorlie, Western Australia. Her surname when she died was Ayre because George disappeared and after 7 years she married Joseph Ayre. But as it turns out, George didn’t really disappear, he left his wife and children.

Their children’s names, and place and date of birth:
Ellen, Strathalbyn 16.9.1852
Annie, Strathalbyn 30.01.1855
George, Turkey Gully, 14.10.1856
Henry, Mt Gambier, 15.6.1859
Richard, Pt MacDonnell, 20.03.1861
Walter, Pt MacDonnell, 29.4.1863
Harriett Cooper, Allensford, 25.10.1865
Ellen had more children to Joseph Ayre

Thanks so much for your interest, wivenhoe, it's greatly appreciated  :)

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Re: Searching for Parents of George Randall (born around 1823)
« Reply #8 on: Sunday 27 May 18 09:08 BST (UK) »
Thanks solidrock, I followed the link and have the same information from my distant cousin, but I'll be able to use the census for more research - it will be very useful!