Author Topic: Finding relatives of missing airgunner William Robert Louth of Hayes Middlesex  (Read 12385 times)

Offline MaureeninNY

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,314
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #36 on: Thursday 31 May 18 12:53 BST (UK) »
I knew you'd ask that,Philip!

Here's another obit-for a sister (under Gertrude Ethel WILLIAMS) which proves the link.

https://newspaperarchive.com/winnipeg-free-press-mar-11-1992-p-41/

Offline MaureeninNY

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,314
    • View Profile

Offline philipsearching

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,092
  • I was a beautiful baby - what went wrong?
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #38 on: Thursday 31 May 18 13:38 BST (UK) »
Family in 1921:
http://central.bac-lac.gc.ca/.item/?app=Census1921&op=img&id=e002890589

I'm a little surprised that Thomas Deuel (b1919) is listed as Deuel, daughter, 1 - but it's definitely the right family.

(Edited - ignore the struck out words!)
The obit link is for a site requiring a subscription, so I can't view it, but I think you have given enough evidence for David Van Coolwijk to e-mail the St James Gospel Chapel and ask the minister if the family still attend.

Philip
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline MaureeninNY

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,314
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #39 on: Thursday 31 May 18 13:43 BST (UK) »
Ah,sorry about the link. I did wonder.

Most of the obits are available on the Newspapers (Canada) from FMPast.
I don't have the capability of cutting and pasting them,though.

Maureen

EDIT: Not sure what you mean about ignoring the struck out words!


Offline philipsearching

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,092
  • I was a beautiful baby - what went wrong?
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #40 on: Thursday 31 May 18 13:46 BST (UK) »
EDIT: Not sure what you mean about ignoring the struck out words!

I found a way round it and managed to view the page.

Philip
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline MaureeninNY

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 3,314
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #41 on: Thursday 31 May 18 13:47 BST (UK) »
EDIT: Not sure what you mean about ignoring the struck out words!

I found a way round it and managed to view the page.

Philip

 :) :)

Well done!

M

Offline philipsearching

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,092
  • I was a beautiful baby - what went wrong?
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #42 on: Thursday 31 May 18 14:05 BST (UK) »
So, to summarise the information found by crisane and MaureeninNY:

Thomas Deuel SCARFF
Service record gives birthplace as Winnipeg, Next of Kin Father - Charles Henry Scarff
1921 Canada census has Deuel age 1 with parents Charles & Daisy, sister Gertrude age 8 and another sister age 7
Winnipeg Free Press has obituary for Gertrude Ethel WILLIAMS nee SCARFF born 3 April 1913, died 9 March 1992.  Member of St James Gospel Chapel.  Many relatives named.
Winnipeg Free Press has obituary for Ben SCARFF born 19 August 1922, died 16 November 2010.  Member of St James Gospel Chapel.  Many relatives named.

Street address and contact e-mail for St James Gospel Chapel on
http://mb.churchdirectory.ca/winnipeg/st-james-gospel-chapel/

Two out of seven sorted - only five left! "And the next one, please!"

Philip
Please help me to help you by citing sources for information.

Census information is Crown Copyright http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Greensleeves

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 4,495
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #43 on: Thursday 31 May 18 14:38 BST (UK) »
I see there is information on Gordon Watson, Sergeant Pilot, RAF 1383608, on the Forces War Records site, but as I don't have a sub, I can't access it, other than that he was based at RAF Elvington in Yorkshire.  If anyone does have a sub, it might be useful to check what info they have on there.

Regards
GS
Suffolk: Pearl(e),  Garnham, Southgate, Blo(o)mfield,Grimwood/Grimwade,Josselyn/Gosling
Durham/Yorkshire: Sedgwick/Sidgwick, Shadforth
Ireland: Davis
Norway: Torreson/Torsen/Torrison
Census information Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Offline Annette7

  • RootsChat Marquessate
  • *******
  • Posts: 8,009
    • View Profile
Re: Finding relatives of missing airgunner
« Reply #44 on: Thursday 31 May 18 14:59 BST (UK) »
Going back to initial object of this thread i.e. William R Louth born William Lowth 1920 Blandford, mmn Hull.

His father William was born 1885 in Greenock, Renfrewshire, son of Patrick Lowth bc.1852 Ireland and Jane Boyle/s bc.1855 New Luce Wigtownshire.

Patrick and Jane had 12 children.   

Have found in Private Trees on Ancestry some trees - 2 worth mentioning are Lowth Family Tree shown to have 9 attached records and Shea Family Tree shown to have 11 attached records both relating to William Lowth born 1885 - from what I can gather the only one of his children referred to is the Peter J. born 1928 (who married Shea).

Bearing this in mind, since Peter seems to be the 'source' of the Lowth family tree, and that he was William R Louth's brother - both spellings in the Scottish records although predominately Lowth - I'm wondering whether the submitter of this tree has present day information of Peter's descendants who are obviously 'kin' to William.

Perhaps worth contacting them directly via Ancestry?

Annette
Scopes (One-Name Study - Worldwide)
Suffolk - Grist, Knights, Bullenthorpe, Watcham
Scotland - Spence, Horne, Cowan, Moffat
London -  Monk

Don't walk behind me, I may not lead.   Don't walk in front of me, I may not follow.   Just walk beside me and be my friend.

Census Information is Crown Copyright, from www.nationalarchives.gov.uk