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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #36 on: Saturday 02 June 18 12:08 BST (UK) »
Gadget,

Stewart was the 'newborn' Agnes was tried for in 1846  ;)

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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #37 on: Saturday 02 June 18 12:10 BST (UK) »
Gadget,

Stewart was the 'newborn' Agnes was tried for in 1846  ;)

Annie

Ah - what about the others?
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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #38 on: Saturday 02 June 18 12:17 BST (UK) »
"Yes Annie that's the death certificate that I have"

Who was the informant?

What was the age of Agnes in 1846?

A possible?

CARRUTHERS MARGARET JANE 1860
799/2 43 Ladhope (Roxburgh)

No matching ref. i.e. a spinster?

No age on index so it may be unlikely her parentage was known either?

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 02 June 18 13:20 BST (UK) »
Have you looked at this baptism record - Kirkpatrick Fleming 1795

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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 02 June 18 13:27 BST (UK) »
Not sure if you've seen these:
Also to same parents - Mary as Mathers, Kirkpatrick Fleming

Margaret 27 Jan 1794
Henrietta 26 June 1797

Agnes seem much younger than the others  :-\

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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 02 June 18 13:43 BST (UK) »
Have you chased up the others on the 1841?  I had a quick look earlier but couldn't find the Stewart and the others have common names  :-\

Stewart was the 'newborn' Agnes was tried for in 1846  ;)

Gadget,

My apologies, Stewart is on 1841!

I misread it, Agnes was tried for killing her 'newborn' which was obviously not Stewart.

1841 - Fairy Hall, Kirkpatrick Fleming, Dumfriesshire

Surname as Carrithers

William 69
Agness 28 (b c1813)
Mary 10
Jean 5
Williamina 5
Stewart 3

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Add...Great find on the baptisms!!!
South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 02 June 18 13:54 BST (UK) »
Yep - got the names from the 1841.

Found Elspeth on 1841- 1861 and 1871 in Newlands - not yet on 1851 - must be a big mistranscription. She's down as b. KP in last 2 but b. county in 1841 (Peeblesshire)

1841, children are Mary, b.c. 1834, Jane b.c. 1835, William, b.c. 1838 and Marion b.c. 1840
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« Reply #43 on: Saturday 02 June 18 14:04 BST (UK) »
Just thinking about grandchildren and knowing their grandmothers' maiden name. I've seen this on many death certs. .  The informant on Elspeth's death cert is her son, William. He might well have mis-remembered Elspeth's mothers' name.  The three baptism records do suggest that it was Mathers as first thought.

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Re: Help in Deciphering this name please
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 02 June 18 14:14 BST (UK) »
I have a few with wrong maiden names but enough evidence to work out the errors.

A possible death although not sure on the area given where the family were previously & note there's no 's' on the end?

CARRUTHER WILLIAM 72 (b c1775) - Not too far off his possible birth yr?
22/05/1847
839/30 364 Langholm or Staplegorton (Dumfries)

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South Uist, Inverness-shire, Scotland:- Bowie, Campbell, Cumming, Currie

Ireland:- Cullen, Flannigan (Derry), Donahoe/Donaghue (variants) (Cork), McCrate (Tipperary), Mellon, Tol(l)and (Donegal & Tyrone)

Newcastle-on-Tyne/Durham (Northumberland):- Harrison, Jude, Kemp, Lunn, Mellon, Robson, Stirling

Kettering, Northampton:- MacKinnon

Canada:- Callaghan, Cumming, MacPhee

"OLD GENEALOGISTS NEVER DIE - THEY JUST LOSE THEIR CENSUS"