Looking for a Pilot (NOT Pirate) JAMES HAYDEN b. 1806?

[cguil_uk]

FindMyPast have a James Hayden of St Helens listed on the death duty index in 1848.

It could have been either of these though
HAYDEN, JAMES       age 42     
1848  March Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 209   

HAYDEN, JAMES       age 56     
1848  Dec Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 149

Hannah also appears on DD index in 1867 - Probate index states she was a spinster

 believe that

HAYDEN, JAMES       age 42     
1848  March Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 209   

is corrrect

[rosie99]

 believe that

HAYDEN, JAMES       age 42     
1848  March Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 209   

is corrrect

What about the baptism of James to mother Hannah. 

There is this baptism that could be your James at St Helens
James Hoyden
Baptism date 19 September 1805
Residence   St Helens, Hampshire, England
Father   -
Mother Hannah Hoyden

Also Hannah

Possible baptism for Hannah Hayden 1786 parents William & Deborah
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLYH-GZY6

Her death as a 'Spinster in 1862

Hannahs entry on probate index for 1867
Hannah Hayden formerly of Nettlestone but late of Sea View, both in the Isle of Wight. Spinster. Died 7 August 1862 at Sea View
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=hayden&yearOfDeath=1867&page=5#calendar

[cguil_uk]

 believe that

HAYDEN, JAMES       age 42     
1848  March Quarter in ISLE OF WIGHT  Volume 08  Page 209   

is corrrect

What about the baptism of James to mother Hannah. 

There is this baptism that could be your James at St Helens
James Hoyden
Baptism date 19 September 1805
Residence   St Helens, Hampshire, England
Father   -
Mother Hannah Hoyden

Also Hannah

Possible baptism for Hannah Hayden 1786 parents William & Deborah
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QLYH-GZY6

UR A STAR Thanks for this!

Her death as a 'Spinster in 1862

Hannahs entry on probate index for 1867
Hannah Hayden formerly of Nettlestone but late of Sea View, both in the Isle of Wight. Spinster. Died 7 August 1862 at Sea View
https://probatesearch.service.gov.uk/Calendar?surname=hayden&yearOfDeath=1867&page=5#calendar

[rosie99]

Is this post now complete or is there something we still need to be looking for 

[cguil_uk]

Is this post now complete or is there something we still need to be looking for 

I would love to be able to track his dad down as that has alluded me so far.

His Parents
WILLIAM HAYDEN
b. Unknown?
d. Unknown?
m. ?
HANNA DRAPER (Census shows her with her daughter in law and grandchildren)
b. 1787? - St Helens, Hampshire, England
d. 04 AUG 1862 - Isle of Wight, Hampshire, England

[rosie99]

As posted on here Hannah's occupation was 'formerly Draper'   Where does the evidence that her maiden name was also Draper come from 

Hannah's will indicate that she was a spinster so not married and that ties in with the baptism of Hannah Hayden in 1786 parents William & Deborah.  James baptism also names her as the sole parent.

What documentation confirms that James father is William Hayden. 

[emeltom]

If James is illegitimate then it is unlikely that you will find the name of the father unless the mother took out a Bastardy Oreder against the father for maintenance.

Emeltom

[cguil_uk]

If James is illegitimate then it is unlikely that you will find the name of the father unless the mother took out a Bastardy Oreder against the father for maintenance.

Emeltom

Well, I am pretty sure that it was William. I do not think that James was illegitimate as I am sure my relative's notes would have said something.

[rosie99]

Do your relatives notes give a baptism for James